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[popup2012]

Well this morning I went over the TT and measured the squat.  From the bar coming out of the truck hitch holder, 18 3/4, then I dropped the TT down on the ball,  17 3/4.  Not nearly  what I expected.  Also I am attaching a picture of the spring, looks like 4 bars if you count the bottom one.

[david]

[p]Good input. With 1" of sag due to the tongue weight, you don't need a WDH and you don't need better springs. I would throw away your Andersen WDH (which doesn't do much for weight distribution anyway) and go without.[/p][p]
[/p][p]I also don't believe that you need any sway control either. My 2013 Pathfinder doesn't and it sags more than yours so it has a softer rear end. You might want to shift more weight forward in the trailer which increases tongue weight and helps with sway. But if you don't have any sway, don't bother.[/p][p]
[/p][p]David
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[charliem]

[quote source="/post/17787/thread" timestamp="1452878916" author="@popup2012"]Well this morning I went over the TT and measured the squat.  From the bar coming out of the truck hitch holder, 18 3/4, then I dropped the TT down on the ball,  17 3/4.  Not nearly  what I expected.  Also I am attaching a picture of the spring, looks like 4 bars if you count the bottom one.
[/quote][font size="3"]One inch at the draw bar is not bad at all. Yes, you have four leaves, but the lowest doesn't appear to do much until there's considerable loading. Almost looks bent or installed upside down. My fourth leaf is hard up to the other three so they all work from the start. Interesting difference. The minimal sag may indicate too little tongue weight and maybe the Anderson was compensating too much. Too much WD gets really squirrelly and dangerous.

If you continue to use that type of anti-sway device most people suggest disconnecting it before backing up. It tends to bend with the sharp angles encountered. [/font]

[daplumbr]

[quote source="/post/17668/thread" timestamp="1452546337" author="@popup2012"]Here is a short story:
Pick up the Trailer and it went all over the road( no WDH).
Went back to dealer and parked it. Called Andersen and they said get a 3350.
Found one 2 hours away. Picked it up and went back to dealer to have it installed.
Dealer had never seen one but installed it ($$).  The trailer was level according to his Iphone. Did not check truck.
Took off and it was still swaying but not jumping. Drove 3 hours to a Andersen dealer who reset the hitch (in the rain and did not charge me for 30 minutes work). Yea for Sonnys RV in NC.  He could not get the truck and trailer level but did the best he could. He said the hitch needed to be lower but setting it at the bottom and middle holes would be too much. It was OK but still had sway and the headlights lit up the road signs a half a mile away. I added 150 lbs of gravel in the front compartment in hopes it would level out the Trailer but no luck. Made it home but was very stressful.
This is not the first time I have driven trucks with trailers. In the military I have driven 5 ton trucks with trailers (20 KW gen) quite a lot. Also old jeeps with trailers which have a nasty habit of flipping with no notice.
[/quote]Going back to the original symptoms and attempted solutions......

I think sway control by getting the Andersen adjusted correctly (with the trailer at travel weight) is a good idea. And, there is no need to disconnect the Andersen when backing. The hitch smoothly and easily adjusts to angles when backing; no bending anywhere. 

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/17810/thread" timestamp="1452897473" author="@sandroad"]And, there is no need to disconnect the Andersen when backing. The hitch smoothly and easily adjusts to angles when backing; no bending anywhere. [/quote][font size="3"]Sorry for the confusion. I momentarily forgot he was using the Anderson and was thinking the friction type. I guess age is catching up with me[/font]  O_o