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Backsplash in 13QBB poor design.

Started by runningwriter, March 16, 2015, 05:00:29 PM

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runningwriter

Just got back from a winter long stay in Key Largo backed by a week in St. Joe's Peninsula State park.  I knew that I had a problem to address when I returned home since the countertop backsplash had warped and pulled away from the wall.

The problem begins because the faucet barely reaches into the sink.  The spout only reaches 3 1/2" from the center of the faucet.  Anything rinsed under it creates a splash that accumulates around the base of the faucet.  The backsplash laps it up because there was no caulk bead under or in front of it.  The only bead was at the top of the splash (the only attempt toward adhesion!).  

Worse than that, the backsplash is styrofoam sandwiched between a laminate front and a very thin backer sheet of Masonite.

i'm thinking of leaving it off and caulking the deck of the counter to the aluminum wall.  Any opinions?

The only alternative is to rest weight on each end and try to straighten out the warp.  Then, I'm still left with a backsplash whose front laminate is bubbling up from the styrofoam substrate.  What poor execution of a countertop build.  It's possible to get too carried away in the pursuit of "lightweight".



mitch

I actually have an issue with the backsplash also. Not as severe as yours but the laminate has pulled away from the backing material in the center.  I haven't got around to gluing it back yet and it's still secure on both ends so I'll have figure out some way of compressing the middle without causing a bubble somewhere else.  I suppose I could pull the laminate off all the way to one end and just re-glue the whole strip. Once it warms enough for glue to stick I'll get it.
Mitch
2013 13QBB
2015 Ford F-150
Anderson 3324 WDH

whoofit

[p]I believe warping is the nature of the beast with that material they use. In apps like the countertop where its pinned down around the perimeter it's most likely gonna be fine. In apps where it is not secured warping is bound to happen in my opinion. Because of the layers.

I have a brand new never used dinette table made of the stuff and a marble could roll to and fro endlessly on it because of the major slump in the middle. Bowed is an understatement.[/p][p]
[/p][p]I have the unfortunate honor of needing to sell a similarly built product every now and then. They warp like mad unless all the planets are properly aligned.[/p]

leslie

If I have a problem with my backsplash while my camper is still under warranty, I am going to have a dealer repair it. I have found 2 dealers where I can bring my unit in for them to see what parts are needed, and retain my camper while the parts come in. The dealer will have the camper only long enough to do the work.
Located in Kentucky and Florida at present

mitch

I don't think the place I bought mine is a dealer anymore, at least they don't show up when you search dealers on LivinLite's website. I think the nearest dealer is now 3 or 4 hours ways and I figure I probably care more about my camper then they do anyway.  Glue I can do.
Mitch
2013 13QBB
2015 Ford F-150
Anderson 3324 WDH

runningwriter

I am trying to unwarp it, now.  Have it clamped and shimmed.  If it straightens enough, I will try warming up the laminate to re-activate the contact cement (if that is what they used) with a hair dryer.  With a roller, I should be able to bring the two surfaces back together.  In my experience with styrofoam, not a lot of glues work well with it.

Elsewhere, the laminate is pulling away from the deck of the countertop in a couple small spots.  Heat will be applied to those when the weather warms.

(Sigh)

charliem

Any 20 minute job can be stretched
to a week with proper planning

Charlie
NW Florida

fasteddieb

Hey! You could always replace it with wood!!!
Mineral Bluff, GA

2014 CampLite 21BHS

2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost

solds88

[p]Pricewise these are reasonable and they offer a good solution for counter edge glue up. When I glue seams I usually use blue painters tape and razor cut the edge of the tape on the pieces to be joined to protect from glue squeeze out. Several types of glues are compatible with Styrofoam, and make sure the glue is waterproof. http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=three+way+clamp&tag=googhydr-20&index=tools&hvadid=36223225840&hvpos=1t2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10037936298370450139&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7q0rtbegtn_b [/p]

solds88

[p]Fasteddieb,[/p][p]
[/p][p]Aluminum square tube stock would be the ultimate fix. TA DA [/p]

runningwriter

Let the records show:  heat from a hair dryer and pressure from a small roller worked well on the raised laminate.

jtelles3993


gmalala

Our 16DB countertop delaminated in Nevada's dry Summer heat after just one season.  It was replaced under warranty but the new countertop started doing the same thing almost immediately so we decided to replace it with a better material.

We looked at several solid-surface options including Corian and Paperstone but both were quite costly despite the small size.  

Eventually we purchased a piece of butcher-block from Ikea and my husband cut, sanded and installed a replacement himself.  It turned out really nice.

hdrehder

[quote source="/post/8444/thread" timestamp="1427312377" author="@gmalala"]Our 16DB countertop delaminated in Nevada's dry Summer heat after just one season.  It was replaced under warranty but the new countertop started doing the same thing almost immediately so we decided to replace it with a better material.

We looked at several solid-surface options including Corian and Paperstone but both were quite costly despite the small size.  

Eventually we purchased a piece of butcher-block from Ikea and my husband cut, sanded and installed a replacement himself.  It turned out really nice.[/quote]Sounds great.  Would love to see a photo.

gmalala

[p]Here you go.  Since counter space is so limited, we took the opportunity to extend the countertop out in front a bit.[/p][p]
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