Fantastic Fan Update

[charliem]

[font size="3"][font face="arial"]Here's an update on a Fantastic Fan upgrade. I had a 4000R installed because I could get it installed, including labor, for just a few bucks more than than I could buy the fan on the net with the supplies needed. All done by Camping World with them supplying the material. The first fan was defective out of the box (only discovered after complete installation) so they replaced it with a 5000R for the same price.

Input DC current for the FF is specified at 1.86/2.29/3.0 Amps on low/med/high, however I actually measured 1.0/1.27/1.61. Apparently the spec values are starting currents, more useful for fuse sizing.

As a comparison I measured two of the OEM single speed fans; one at 2.0A, the other at 1.8A. The fans are marked at 1.6A. Can you say Chinese quality control?

Bottom line for those interested in power consumption, the FF draws 1A on low vs 2A for the OEM Lil' Screamer, moves more air, and is quieter. Even on high the FF current is lower than the OEM Lil' Screamer.
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[tinkeringtechie]

Welcome to the club  8-)

Now only if we can convince LL to put them in at the factory we could save everyone else some grief.

[funpilot]

I am asking them to put them in the trailer I am working on.  Let's see what happens.

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1618/thread" timestamp="1403318844" author="@funpilot"]I am asking them to put them in the trailer I am working on.  Let's see what happens. [/quote][font size="3"][font face="arial"]Be sure to specify Fantastic fans by name and model number. They have a "high powered" fan option that some confuse with a Fantastic. It's easier to argue before than after  8-). Consider including the Fantastic Vent [/font][font face="arial"]UltraBreeze [/font][/font][font size="3"][font face="arial"]UB1500SM [/font][/font][font size="3"][font face="arial"]cov[/font][/font][font size="3"][font face="arial"]ers . They're really nice and let you leave the vents open in rain. May not fit on the bath fan, but will on either/both the others.
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[funpilot]

I like that cover.  Does not require the rain sensor!  So, I think I will ask for:

http://www.amazon.com/Fan-Tastic-Vent-2250-Reverse-Thermostat/dp/B000BRF3VS

http://www.amazon.com/Fan-Tastic-Vent-UB1500SM-Smoke-Breeze/dp/B007HGF4AG

Does that look right?

[funpilot]

There appears to be a screw-less mounting option that I cannot find anything about.  Have you read about it?  On reading further, it just may be that all the new models are the clamp style.  What do you all know?

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1623/thread" timestamp="1403358157" author="@funpilot"]I like that cover.  Does not require the rain sensor!  So, I think I will ask for:

http://www.amazon.com/Fan-Tastic-Vent-2250-Reverse-Thermostat/dp/B000BRF3VS

http://www.amazon.com/Fan-Tastic-Vent-UB1500SM-Smoke-Breeze/dp/B007HGF4AG

Does that look right?
[/quote][font size="3"][font face="arial"]Looks right. The thermostat model wouldn't have been my choice if it hadn't come free because I don't need it, but it will work. [/font][font face="arial"]Correct, no rain sensor and auto closer needed. Less to go wrong.
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[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1624/thread" timestamp="1403358816" author="@funpilot"]There appears to be a screw-less mounting option that I cannot find anything about.  Have you read about it?  On reading further, it just may be that all the new models are the clamp style.  What do you all know? [/quote][font size="3"][font face="arial"]Not sure what you're referring to. According to the FanTastic video, removal of the UltraBreeze for cleaning etc. takes less than a minute.  [/font][font face="arial"]It looks like they use little clip things whose name escapes me.
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[funpilot]

I have read elsewhere that the latest fan-tastic vents are "clamp tightened" from the inside so no outside screws.  I will call them to confirm that on Monday.  

[tinkeringtechie]

I have read elsewhere that the latest fan-tastic vents are "clamp tightened" from the inside so no outside screws.  I will call them to confirm that on Monday.  

I think those are OEM only. Maybe LL could put one in for you.

[farmboy]

A  dealer states that there is a Fantastic Fan on a  2015,   In  looking at their  picture and comparing it to one  of a Fantastic Fan I found at a retail online site, it does appear to be one.
  http://www.southlandrv.com/georgia/atlanta/ultra-light-travel-trailers/2015-Livin-Lite-Camplite-21RBS-id427.html
Or is it the Vortex?   Or it might be a dealer added option.  If LivinLite won't install a Fantastic fan, sounds like the best thing to do is stick with the standard fan (that blade looks really wimpy) and swap it out later, as some of the folks on this site have done.  

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1630/thread" timestamp="1403373410" author="@farmboy"]A  dealer states that there is a Fantastic Fan on a  2015,   In  looking at their  picture and comparing it to one  of a Fantastic Fan I found at a retail online site, it does appear to be one.
  http://www.southlandrv.com/georgia/atlanta/ultra-light-travel-trailers/2015-Livin-Lite-Camplite-21RBS-id427.html
Or is it the Vortex?   Or it might be a dealer added option.  If LivinLite won't install a Fantastic fan, sounds like the best thing to do is stick with the standard fan (that blade looks really wimpy) and swap it out later, as some of the folks on this site have done.  

[/quote]That's definitely a fantastic fan, but whether it came with it or the dealer added it is still a mystery.

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1631/thread" timestamp="1403378813" author="@tinkeringtechie"][quote source="/post/1630/thread" timestamp="1403373410" author="@farmboy"]A  dealer states that there is a Fantastic Fan on a  2015,   In  looking at their  picture and comparing it to one  of a Fantastic Fan I found at a retail online site, it does appear to be one.
  http://www.southlandrv.com/georgia/atlanta/ultra-light-travel-trailers/2015-Livin-Lite-Camplite-21RBS-id427.html
Or is it the Vortex?   Or it might be a dealer added option.  If LivinLite won't install a Fantastic fan, sounds like the best thing to do is stick with the standard fan (that blade looks really wimpy) and swap it out later, as some of the folks on this site have done.  

[/quote]That's definitely a fantastic fan, but whether it came with it or the dealer added it is still a mystery.[/quote][font face="arial" size="3"]My guess is it came from the factory that way. It would be really weird for [/font][font face="arial" size="3"]the dealer to selectively make that upgrade on the lot, although they could have ordered that way. Also note the shower skylight. I think we on this forum are making a difference. Hats off to LL for responding to their customers. I think we are witnessing the evolution of LL from building light motorcycle trailers to building very good travel trailers.

Can anyone spot the tank monitor that's rumored? There's something on the far left above the TV table. I have the 120V WH switch there, but the electric WH was added.  On the wall to the right of the stove top there appear to be 4 plates. Charging center, water pump switch, GFCI 120V outlet, but there is something between the 120V outlet and the pump switch 
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[shovelhead]

They are closed now and Sunday.   I can check Monday.  That is Southland where I bought my 21RBS.   I have an errand to run and I'll pass right by them.

[bah]

Farmboy I am one of the owners of Southland RV. It is a fantastic fan model 4000r I special order all or my Camplites with the fantastic fan and a Gas/Electric water heater. I have been working on the tank monitor for 2 years and we are close but not yet to add it to the unit at our shop it is about $ 500 for a good one. We have been selling Livin lite products for a long time and understand them very well if you have any questions please feel free to contact me.