Fresh/Gray Water Capacity

[acm]

Really like what I see with your products. Looking for front bedroom. The Axxess 8.5x26 looks like it would work well for us but wonder if there is an option to increase the capacity of holding tanks. The 63 gal fresh would be good for us, more would be even better,  but I know from experience that 28 gal grey is going to be an issue if this includes waste water from kitchen sink, shower and bathroom sink. Your website show as coming soon the 8.5x26 and 8.5x28 VRV, are these models available now? Spec. sheet and options available?
Are there any plans to offer a model with garage separate from living quarters?

[admin]

I know in the past many members have said they were able to customize their units without any real trouble. @christianm may be able to provide a few more details on what options you may have available to you to customize.

-Sean

[david]

With regard to fresh, grey and black water capacity on your proposed Axxess, with the fresh water capacity more than double the grey water capacity you will certainly run out of grey water storage before you run out of water. Having double the water capacity in an RV is rather unusual. Usually they are close to the same capacity.

But anyway, I hesitate to mention this but you can dump your grey water in place depending on where you camp. Dumping grey water is probably illegal (and I am sure that others will point this out) but it is no different than washing your hands or doing the dishes outside and dumping the water, all of which is perfectly legal.

The few times I have done it, and I only did it on semi-rustic sites where the RV was parked on hard packed ground, I dug a small depression right under the grey/black water dump outlet so the water would soak in and not run off. Then I cracked the grey water valve and let it run out over an hour's time. And I temporarily put an old sock over the outlet to catch any food particles and a camping chair in front of the dump valve to block it from view ;-).

So there, I have bared my soul and confessed my sins. Would I do it again,.... Would I do the same for black water, no.

David

[pinstriper]

Maybe they expect a certain amount of the fresh water supply to end up in the black tank via flushing.

[billmoore]

We have two ways of conserving the gray water tank when boondocking. First, when showering place a plastic tub in the shower to catch most of the water, and dump in the woods away from camp. Second, use the outdoor faucet and a plastic tub for washing dishes, again dumping in the woods away from camp.

[acm]

Thanks for the input, I too have been forced to empty grey when boondocking, When I buy new I'm going to try and purchase a unit with more grey capacity or know that I can modify to fix this issue. Anyone know where/how the holding tanks are installed. I assume they are tucked in limited space of floor framing members. Anyone know if they are accessible? Thanks again.

[david]

The holding tanks are accessible, unless you get one of the new models with a bottom cover and heat ducting. But I suspect that they will be tucked between floor members which will limit any size increase.

David

[pinstriper]

The holding tanks are accessible, unless you get one of the new models with a bottom cover and heat ducting. But I suspect that they will be tucked between floor members which will limit any size increase.

David

I think I read that it is only the truck campers, not travel trailers, that are enclosed and heated.

[daplumbr]

On my 16TBS, the tanks are easily accessible, but they fill the spaces they occupy between the trailer framing. The only way I see to add capacity without losing ground clearance would be to add additional tanks. That may be more reasonable on the larger trailers, but not on the 16. And yes, the new heated and insulated "basements" are only on the truck campers. 

[christianm]

Really like what I see with your products. Looking for front bedroom. The Axxess 8.5x26 looks like it would work well for us but wonder if there is an option to increase the capacity of holding tanks. The 63 gal fresh would be good for us, more would be even better,  but I know from experience that 28 gal grey is going to be an issue if this includes waste water from kitchen sink, shower and bathroom sink. Your website show as coming soon the 8.5x26 and 8.5x28 VRV, are these models available now? Spec. sheet and options available?
Are there any plans to offer a model with garage separate from living quarters?

Hi there!

Thanks for considering a Livin Lite product! 

Just spoke to my contact here at the factory, and the answers to your questions are as follows: 

1) At this time, there are no factory options for bigger water tanks in any of our units or floorplans. 

2) We are no longer producing the Axxess models and have focused our resources to the VRV toy hauler lines. The website has been recently updated, so all of the information on there should be relevant and correct :-) Spec. Sheets and options will be included on our website as well. 

3) As of right now, there are no plans to further separate the garage area from the living quarters . 

Hope this is helpful! 

Christian 

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[font face="comic sans ms" size="4"]My wife and I have been enjoying our 14DBS for two years now. The first time out we saw the grey tank fill to the shower stall pretty quick. Since then after researching at other rv sites, we now dump our kitchen sink dish water and hand washing water in the black tank via the toilet bowl. It has extended our single fill days to 3 1/2 days without dumping.
F.Y.I. - Our tank capacities are:
38 gal. fresh water
32 gal. grey water
36 gal. black water (28 imperial gal. is marked on the tank)[/font]

[david]

You have an unusually large black water tank compared to the others. But given that, your strategy of dumping dishwater in the toilet makes a lot of sense.

David

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You have an unusually large black water tank compared to the others. But given that, your strategy of dumping dishwater in the toilet makes a lot of sense.

David

[font face="comic sans ms" size="3"]When we purchased our trailer two years ago, I was crawling underneath it and noticed the black tank had molded lettering on the bottom of the tank saying 28 gal. imp. That meant imperial gallons (such as used in Canada) which is equal to 5 gallons US. Actually my post is incorrect, it calculates to 35 gallons US, not 36. (my error)
Nevertheless, it sure is beneficial to have the extra capacity!

[/font][font face="comic sans ms" size="3"]Correction again! I am showing my age here. After checking the Canadian gallon info, 28 Imp. gallons is equal to 33.6 US gallons.
I knew it was more but I haven't checked for a few decades! Anyway, it is more than 28 gal.[/font]

[daplumbr]

[font size="4" face="comic sans ms"]My wife and I have been enjoying our 14DBS for two years now. The first time out we saw the grey tank fill to the shower stall pretty quick. Since then after researching at other rv sites, we now dump our kitchen sink dish water and hand washing water in the black tank via the toilet bowl. It has extended our single fill days to 3 1/2 days without dumping.
F.Y.I. - Our tank capacities are:
38 gal. fresh water
32 gal. grey water
36 gal. black water (28 imperial gal. is marked on the tank)[/font]

I assume you've seen the threads and posts on the issue with the grey tank capacity that affected some Camplites? The vent pipe is too far into the tank and reduces (dramatically) the capacity. 

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[font face="comic sans ms" size="3"]When we started dumping our wash water into the commode, we have never had a full grey or black tank before the fresh runs out. So when the fresh water runs out, we fill it and then dump the other tanks as well.[/font]