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Poor quality tires. Is this standard?

Started by jeeps, May 18, 2015, 02:24:24 PM

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daplumbr

[quote source="/post/25229/thread" author="@ammobob" timestamp="1475929829"]I am considering the Taskmaster Provider as a replacement for our stock tires which are worn out at 5-6K miles. They are D load rated.

Anyone have any thoughts about these tires.

https://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Taskmaster/TTWTRTM2157514D.html[/quote]No experience with them and not much for on-line reviews other that at etrailer. The fact they sell them is a good thing; I like etrailer  :)   I couldn't find any complaints about Taskmaster tires on the NHTSA site, which is also a good thing. There are LOTS of trailer tire brands and models with complaints on that site. 

daplumbr

Quote from: @pygrydr" source="/post/25232/thread" timestamp="1475946733[quote source="/post/25231/thread" author="@charliem" timestamp="1475946142"][font size="3"]The first thing to do is figure out who made the originals and don't buy them. 5-6K? How can that work? We drive more than that on a single trip. I guess you get what you pay for.[/font]
Took my 4 original tires off after 4000 miles when one bubbled and others showed beginning signs of cracking.  Replaced 4 with Maxxis 8008 for $265-mounted and balanced, from my local tire dealer.   Glad I did! http://livinlite-owners.com/thread/976/cracks-brand-new-tires?page=4[/quote]That is a smoking good deal on those Maxxis tires.  :o  Was that one of the chain stores?  

pygrydr

[quote timestamp="1475950401" author="@fasteddieb" source="/post/25235/thread"]Is that $265 each?

No $265 for 4 Maxxis 8008 175-80x13 -mounted and balanced!  My tire guy always gives me great prices.[/quote]

daplumbr

He's a keeper. At $66 each mounted and balanced, you practically stole them!

pygrydr

Quote from: @sandroad" source="/post/25243/thread" timestamp="1475959695
Quote from: @pygrydr" source="/post/25232/thread" timestamp="1475946733Took my 4 original tires off after 4000 miles when one bubbled and others showed beginning signs of cracking.  Replaced 4 with Maxxis 8008 for $265-mounted and balanced, from my local tire dealer.   Glad I did! http://livinlite-owners.com/thread/976/cracks-brand-new-tires?page=4
That is a smoking good deal on those Maxxis tires.  :o   Was that one of the chain stores?  

Local tire dealer, who is a friend and always gives me great prices!

fasteddieb

Quote from: @djsamuel" timestamp="1475851740" source="/post/25218/thread[quote source="/post/25217/thread" timestamp="1475848592" author="@fasteddieb"]Called the nearest Maxxis dealer in Alcoa, TN They don't have the Maxxis in stock, but recommended a radial tire: the Carlisle Radial Trail HD. $532 for four, installed balanced and tax inclusive.

My local guy has nothing good to say about Carlisle, is lukewarm on Maxxis and recommends a Hertage Max STR.

Thoughts?
I bought the Carlisle Radial Trail RH trials almost a year ago.  The HD tires are the newer version of the RHs.  These tires have been great.  They seem very durable, have had no problems at all, have an 87MPH speed limit, and they tow great.

I wouldn't hesitate to get them.[/quote]
Curious...

Do you think you would have gone for the HD's had they been available? There's a pretty significant price difference.
Mineral Bluff, GA

2014 CampLite 21BHS

2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost

djsamuel

[quote source="/post/25284/thread" author="@fasteddieb" timestamp="1476103288"]
Quote from: @djsamuel" timestamp="1475851740" source="/post/25218/threadI bought the Carlisle Radial Trail RH trials almost a year ago.  The HD tires are the newer version of the RHs.  These tires have been great.  They seem very durable, have had no problems at all, have an 87MPH speed limit, and they tow great.

I wouldn't hesitate to get them.
Curious...

Do you think you would have gone for the HD's had they been available? There's a pretty significant price difference.[/quote]That's a very good question.  The RH tires are really nice.  But I probably would have gone for the HD since they were the next version, and hence improved (I assume).  Would it be worth the extra money?  Probably not.  I've read reviews from many people with the RH tires that have well over 20,000 miles with no issues.  Add to that the fact that the Camplites have a lot of margin on weight capacity for the tires, and I think I'll be good.  How big of a difference is there?  I haven't looked.
Camplite 21BHS / Ram 1500

Central Florida


daplumbr

[quote source="/post/25284/thread" timestamp="1476103288" author="@fasteddieb"][quote source="/post/25218/thread" timestamp="1475851740" author="@djsamuel"]I bought the Carlisle Radial Trail RH trials almost a year ago.  The HD tires are the newer version of the RHs.  These tires have been great.  They seem very durable, have had no problems at all, have an 87MPH speed limit, and they tow great.

I wouldn't hesitate to get them.[/quote]Curious...

Do you think you would have gone for the HD's had they been available? There's a pretty significant price difference.[/quote]If your looking at the price difference between the Maxxis price posted earlier in in this thread and the Carlisle price you were quoted, most of that is 1) the impossibly good deal on the Maxxis and 2) the larger size on the 21 cost more. Your quote of $133 each for the Carlisle out the door is fine for that size tire. Ordinary mortals won't get good tires much less than that. 

fasteddieb

My local guy quoted $75 per tire installed, only extra being the tire disposal fee.

He wasn't sure if it was the RH or the HD - I'll find out when they arrive Thursday.  I did specify the Carlisle Radial Trail, so I guess it has to be one or the other.
Mineral Bluff, GA

2014 CampLite 21BHS

2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost

fasteddieb

Baby's got a new pair of shoes!

Well, two pair actually.

The tires that came in were the Carlisle Radial Trail RH's.

$330 all in. $75 each, tax, installation and balance included. $7.50 tire disposal fee.

Much better than the $532 quoted for the HD's in Alcoa, TN. My guy said his supplier said the HD had a different tread pattern, but opined there was no significant quality difference for the extra money.

Some of my originals looked decent after 12,000 miles, and could have lasted a little longer:



[img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5325/30025128990_d058b2d5d8_z.jpg"]

One had a flat spot - the top one. Did not take note of which tire came off which position. I don't recall ever locking up the brakes, but it's possible.

I'll report on the new tires once I have some miles on them.

Mineral Bluff, GA

2014 CampLite 21BHS

2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost

daplumbr

Great price! I hope they run well. 

jimt

This forum is full of great information and it is costing me a little extra coin every time I turn around. LOL

Such as this tire issue.Which by the way is not so funny. It forced me to go buy a tire monitor system.
Got this one of Amazon. Tire Minder TM55c-B Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) for Trailers, Travel Trailers.  Was easy to set up and I feel much more comfortable with it on and working. All this talk of blow outs and damage to campers put the chills in me enough to make me buy this system. After owning 3 other campers in years past and never once having a tire issue it would have never dawned on me to buy such a system. I'm finding I was lucky in a lot of ways.

I also find myself coming back to read more and I'm learning a ton from this forum. So thank you to everyone for making this such a nice place to learn from and to be safer on the roads.

diversteve

Concerning the  Tire Minder TM55c-B Tire Pressure Monitoring System, are you happy with this unit?
We are considering buying one for our rig after witnessing two blowouts on other trailers in a thirty minute time period.
Both blowouts were on I-25 outside of Denver CO. during rush hour!

redbox15

Vail bias tires are crap half way through our 11,750 mile trip had to replace one with radial after last stop (Ft Stevens Or, at LL rally I replaced the other three.

jimt

[quote source="/post/25374/thread" timestamp="1476628097" author="@diversteve"]Concerning the  Tire Minder TM55c-B Tire Pressure Monitoring System, are you happy with this unit?
We are considering buying one for our rig after witnessing two blowouts on other trailers in a thirty minute time period.
Both blowouts were on I-25 outside of Denver CO. during rush hour![/quote]Steve

I just put it on yesterday.  It was easy to install and already it has told me one tire was 5 psi low and the other 3 psi to high.
Now they are just right. How it works on the road I can not say yet, but so far it seems like a very good investment. Wish I could be of more use to you on this.
 Also be careful which system you order. The valve stems are important. If you have aluminum then buy the system with the aluminum stems. If you have brass valve stems buy that system.  The book warns about making sure of this.