Grey Water Tank Problem

[jerrybeaird]

Thanks Shovelhead for the video...just what I needed to see!

[jtelles3993]

Thx for the video. So this verifies the AAVs sole function - let's air in, but not out.

When nd1979 removed his AAV, he heard a "sucking" sound, so obviously his wasn't working properly - i.e., letting air in under negative pressure.

Maybe LL bought a bad batch of AAVs?

[jtelles3993]

So I pulled my kitchen AAV out this morning, it is made by J&B Products, actual vent is called a Vent Check 2 - I can't even find this product on Google?

I did find a few plumber forums discussing AAVs, some state codes don't allow them at all. One master plumber commented that in any drain scenario, to use an AAV, there needs to be at least one atmospheric vent in that drain line somewhere. I have one in my island kitchen sink at home, but that drain is tied into a line that has an atmospheric roof vent.

[charliem]

[quote timestamp="1426389276" author="@gleamb" source="/post/7805/thread"]JUST replace the AAV with WHAT?? Where do we purchase them? Same brand or do we try a different manufacturer ? My trailer is new and under warranty....why would I have to do this and not Livin Lite???

I sure wish someone at Livin Lite would monitor these forums. hey need to know what is going on. When I spoke with Don about this problem, I asked him if he had ever heard of it from other owners. He said he HADN'T !!!!?!! Really?[/quote][font size="3"]gleamb,

If the trailer is still in warranty the first line of defense is via LL. I only suggest you replace the AAV if your dealer or service site is hours away. Many of us opt to repair simple things ourselves, even if within the warranty period, because it's easier, faster, more convenient, or cheaper than hauling the trailer to a distant repair facility. That's my overall philosophy on warranty repairs. However, if you're in warranty and you're close to a repair facility or you're not comfortable doing the work yourself you should by all means contact LL. The AAV should be available at Lowes, HD, or and RV supply house for around $20. There are several attachment methods available so take your old one to the store when buying.

As far as Don's memory, I think either his memory is short or he is overwhelmed with warranty calls. We had the same response when fasteddieb was fighting a ground fault/hot chassis problem. Don's response was "they all do that". Wrong!! Only with our encouragement and a sharp dealer tech was Eddie able to get the fault fixed.
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[kycamper]

Thanks, charliem. I am, indeed, far from D&H, and my local CW doesn't seem to like doing Livin Lite warranty work. I am very comfortable changing out the AAV. I just wanted to try a different manufacturer. Can you tell me how the AAV at the kitchen and bath sink come out? Do they screw in? Do I have to cut them out ?

Thanks for your help with this and the backup camera.

[jerrybeaird]

Hi gleamb

I have a 2015 21RBS also and the one in my bathroom just screwed out.  I did not check the one in the kitchen though, but I will check it tomorrow if you need me to.

[charliem]

[font size="3"]Thanks, nd1979. That's my recollection too. I think any brand AAV available that physically fits will work.
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[jtelles3993]

Sanitized the white tank today, in the process of pumping all 30gls to the grey tank via the water pump I discovered something good ---> At water pump pressure running the kitchen and bathroom faucets, my grey tank took it all, no gurgles, no problemos at all. Repeated the entire process for the 30gl rinse - same good results!

I'm healed.

[shovelhead]

I de-winterized today.  Flushed everything out.  Then I tested for the grey water ala AAV  problem.  I used a 3 gallon Crystal water jug.
It took 11 refills and as the last bit left the water jug the shower tray was about 1" deep and the kitchen sink was half full.  No gushing no  gurgling.  As we said on the boats.   Works fine last a long time and drains to the bilge.

[jerrybeaird]

Surfsup and Shovelhead.....that's great news!! .....on my end, Don at LL is sending me new valves, one for the kitchen too, just in case and I should be good to go too.

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/7937/thread" timestamp="1426549540" author="@nd1979"]Surfsup and Shovelhead.....that's great news!! .....on my end, Don at LL is sending me new valves, one for the kitchen too, just in case and I should be good to go too.[/quote][font size="3"]Ditto on that, but I think Shovelhead paid off Murphy. He got off too easy. BTW Murphy was last seen living in an old Air Stream on a back lot in Wakarusa.
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[jtelles3993]

Surfsup and Shovelhead.....that's great news!! .....on my end, Don at LL is sending me new valves, one for the kitchen too, just in case and I should be good to go too.

Great support from LL, I'm sure you'll keep us posted..

[shovelhead]

Murphy is still around .  Early last year I was in Yellowstone.  Temps didnt get out of the high 40's, and it was pouring buckets.  I was stuck inside so I start watching TV while lying on the bed.   My foot touched the wall under the storage cabinet and it felt cold and wet.  I thought I had a leaker.  Dont you know Murphy wont allow me to recreate  the leak. I've showered the outside and even ran through a truck wash and I cant find the leak.   I chalked it up to being condensation with the cold temps and rain.   Murphy will prove me wrong at the worst possible time... I'm sure.

[mitch]

[quote source="/post/7930/thread" author="@shovelhead" timestamp="1426544432"]I de-winterized today.  Flushed everything out.  Then I tested for the grey water ala AAV  problem.  I used a 3 gallon Crystal water jug.
It took 11 refills and as the last bit left the water jug the shower tray was about 1" deep and the kitchen sink was half full.  No gushing no  gurgling.  As we said on the boats.   Works fine last a long time and drains to the bilge.[/quote]I think using a crystal water jug was bit much, a regular plastic one probably would have worked just as well.

[shovelhead]

Dang I could have saved a lot of dough.. Those 11 jugs of Crystal water were like $65.   I didnt know I could have used tap water.