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Greasing wheel bearings, switching tires

Started by dp, September 03, 2014, 05:20:37 PM

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gnies

[quote source="/post/3319/thread" timestamp="1409935940" author="@tinkeringtechie"]It's about two inches wide, so some jacks might fit there... definitely not a floor jack though. Most bottle jacks should be fine.[/quote]
Ok thank you for confirming this, do you think there would be a safe spot for a floor jack ? Or would it be a no do not use ?

tinkeringtechie

[quote source="/post/3320/thread" timestamp="1409936060" author="@paul"][quote source="/post/3319/thread" timestamp="1409935940" author="@tinkeringtechie"]It's about two inches wide, so some jacks might fit there... definitely not a floor jack though. Most bottle jacks should be fine.[/quote]Ok thank you for confirming this, do you think there would be a safe spot for a floor jack ? Or would it be a no do not use ?[/quote]If you put something between the floor jack and the frame (like a 4x4 piece of wood) then it would probably have enough surface area to work without risk of damage. Just try to put it as close to the axle as possible since that's where the frame is used to bearing weight.
2014 Camplite 21BHS

2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD 5.7L

gnies

[quote source="/post/3321/thread" timestamp="1409936423" author="@tinkeringtechie"][quote source="/post/3320/thread" timestamp="1409936060" author="@paul"]Ok thank you for confirming this, do you think there would be a safe spot for a floor jack ? Or would it be a no do not use ?[/quote]If you put something between the floor jack and the frame (like a 4x4 piece of wood) then it would probably have enough surface area to work without risk of damage. Just try to put it as close to the axle as possible since that's where the frame is used to bearing weight.[/quote]Ok thank you, and if I want to "block" my camper to remove both wheels what would be your approach to do it securely? I know it's a lot of question but I want to be prepared in case I have to do it lol

dp

Someone posted with a question if my TV has a jack? I don't know what he means by TV. Does my 10.0 come with some kind of a jack since it does have a spare tire? Now who is the dumb one, lol.

tinkeringtechie

[quote source="/post/3323/thread" timestamp="1409937544" author="@paul"][quote source="/post/3321/thread" timestamp="1409936423" author="@tinkeringtechie"]If you put something between the floor jack and the frame (like a 4x4 piece of wood) then it would probably have enough surface area to work without risk of damage. Just try to put it as close to the axle as possible since that's where the frame is used to bearing weight.[/quote]Ok thank you, and if I want to "block" my camper to remove both wheels what would be your approach to do it securely? I know it's a lot of question but I want to be prepared in case I have to do it lol
[/quote]Do the same 4x4 trick with a jack stand. I also prefer to keep my vehicle attached when I'm jacking up the trailer and taking off wheels since it seems more stable than the tongue jack.
2014 Camplite 21BHS

2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD 5.7L

gnies

[quote source="/post/3325/thread" timestamp="1409937929" author="@ron10"]Someone posted with a question if my TV has a jack? I don't know what he means by TV. Does my 10.0 come with some kind of a jack since it does have a spare tire? Now who is the dumb one, lol.[/quote]
TV means Towing Vehicule, so he is talking about the jack of is car

tinkeringtechie

[quote source="/post/3325/thread" timestamp="1409937929" author="@ron10"]Someone posted with a question if my TV has a jack? I don't know what he means by TV. Does my 10.0 come with some kind of a jack since it does have a spare tire? Now who is the dumb one, lol.[/quote]TV = Tow Vehicle. Your car should have a jack and it may also work for the trailer.
2014 Camplite 21BHS

2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD 5.7L


pinstriper

[quote source="/post/3274/thread" timestamp="1409843799" author="@tinkeringtechie"][quote source="/post/3270/thread" timestamp="1409841823" author="@pinstriper"][p]What's wrong with the jack in your TV ?[/p][p]
[/p][/quote]Nothing if you can make it work. Some vehicles have weird jacks that wouldn't fit. The nice thing about bottle jacks is that they fit just about anywhere. They're pretty cheap too... here's the one I use:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000234ISK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/quote][p]I live a sheltered life in which every vehicle I've bought since the Reagan Administration came with a bottle jack. The last one before then was a scissors jack, which would also do nicely.[/p][p]
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fasteddieb

[quote source="/post/3279/thread" timestamp="1409847800" author="@tinkeringtechie"]
The torsion type axles (I believe all except a few LL toy haulers use them) are just hollow square tubes. They can dent or collapse if the pressure from the jack isn't distributed evenly. The spindle is solid and could be used as a jack point if you can reach it.[/quote]
Thanks for the head's up.

I very well might have looked at that axle and assumed it was OK to jack there.

I'm about to order a pair of the Anderson Levelers, and one will probably be my "jack" of choice for routine tire changes.

Obviously not a solution for single-axle trailers.
Mineral Bluff, GA

2014 CampLite 21BHS

2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost

mbanks

[quote source="/post/3304/thread" timestamp="1409873514" author="@tinkeringtechie"]The grease shouldn't be able to get to the brakes unless the rear seal has failed. It's not uncommon, but it's more likely if you keep injecting grease and don't repack (which requires replacing that seal). So while there's no harm in a little bit of extra grease, you should still repack regularly (I do it every year, some people do it every 2 years or by mileage).[/quote]I was just going to ask about it - I pumped in fresh grease recently 1 month and 2000 miles ago. I pumped enough into each side to see the fresh grease come out - this took two small grease cartridges per side.

Well, I just noticed that one wheel is very dirty on the inside with a lot of grease reside mixed with sand all over the inside of the hub.

Is this the real seal that failed? what is the repair procedure?

This brings a question - we dont need to grease car wheel bearings. Why?

vmcmn

Just make sure if you replace the seal that you replace it with a double lip seal.You can tell if it is a double lip seal by looking on the inside of the seal for the spring,also a metal housing and a 'Y' shaped lip.A single lip seal will not hold the pressure that a double lipped one will. As far as the wheel bearings on cars it depends on if you are talking about old cars or new ones. Most newer cars use a bearing hub assy. where the bearings are part of the hub and not serviceable.When they go out you must replace the whole assy. As far as your seal failing I know what you mean,I found the same problem when I went to install the brakes on my QS 8.1 and found that the stock hub only had a single lip seal installed which didn't hold the pressure of the new grease being pumped in when I serviced it.Don't know why Dexter would put a singe lip seal on an EZ lube axle knowing that it would not hold the pressure ??? 
Tim

Tallahassee,Fl.

2011 QS 8.1

Towed with either 2007 Chevy HHR

or 1994 GMC Sierra 1500


tinkeringtechie

[quote source="/post/3349/thread" timestamp="1410033026" author="@gregcolumbus"][quote source="/post/3304/thread" timestamp="1409873514" author="@tinkeringtechie"]The grease shouldn't be able to get to the brakes unless the rear seal has failed. It's not uncommon, but it's more likely if you keep injecting grease and don't repack (which requires replacing that seal). So while there's no harm in a little bit of extra grease, you should still repack regularly (I do it every year, some people do it every 2 years or by mileage).[/quote]I was just going to ask about it - I pumped in fresh grease recently 1 month and 2000 miles ago. I pumped enough into each side to see the fresh grease come out - this took two small grease cartridges per side.

Well, I just noticed that one wheel is very dirty on the inside with a lot of grease reside mixed with sand all over the inside of the hub.

Is this the real seal that failed? what is the repair procedure?

This brings a question - we dont need to grease car wheel bearings. Why?[/quote]Sounds like the rear seal is leaking. The repair procedure is pretty simple. Just follow the normal bearing repacking procedure (which includes replacing that seal) and also spray some brake pad cleaner on your pads since they're almost certainly contaminated with grease.

Why don't car bearings need it? I'm not exactly sure... I know car bearings need to be replaced after 150k miles or so, but I'm not sure why the same couldn't be applied to trailers. Maybe because trailers still use drum brakes?
2014 Camplite 21BHS

2013 Toyota Sequoia 4WD 5.7L

mbanks

oh Camplite owners :) We QS owners are not afforded the luxury of brakes in our trailers, well, I suppose it was an optional upgrade but I dont have it - I got my camper used. I am planning to instal the brakes later this year. Yes, I dont absolutely need them, but I will feel more secure with shorter braking distance.

Thanks for the info! I will find the seals.

Is this something that needs to be done right away? That is: is it only the excess grease that got squeezed out when I pumped?


dp

I only have the 10.0 but i did not think i needed breaks for it.