2015 Camplite 28BHS Photos

[funpilot]

What are the dimensions of the bunk beds?

[livinthegoodlife]

We also have a sofa bed in our 16TBS.  It has been replaced as the original was defective.  But, there is no support for the middle of the mattress.  I told the dealer that was replacing it to forget it, that we will put a piece of plywood in to use it.  This is not what LivinLite is all about, but we were tired of dealing with the problem after waiting for three months to get it replaced. This is the only complaint we had about the unit. What is the support on your sofa bed? I might have to call LivinLite to see what is missing now. It looks like you have a very nice unit and welcome to the forum!

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1856/thread" timestamp="1404475943" author="@charliem"][font face="arial" size="3"]My reaction to the above; just MHO:

[/font][ol type="decimal"][li][font face="arial" size="3"]The inclusion of this monitor is disappointing, but not unexpected.[/font][/li][li][font face="arial" size="3"]KIB has taken a monitor with two useless functions and turned it into one with three useless functions.[/font][/li][li][font face="arial" size="3"]The battery function is worse than useless, it's very misleading. A battery at 12.7 is not being charged; a battery at 11.9 is past it's 50% discharge and risks damage; a battery at 11.2 is dead; a battery at 6.0 got left home.[/font][/li][li][font face="arial" size="3"]The good news is the trailer wiring is in place for an easy upgrade.
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[/font][/quote]Agreed, very disappointed but exactly what I expecting/dreading. Oh well, I guess it's better than nothing for some people. If it's an option they might as well make it a good option though...

On #4, the wiring may be in place, but the location is very unfortunate. It looks like they crammed it between the water heater switch and "power center" which isn't enough room for the SeeLevel. Not the most straightforward upgrade unfortunately.

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1876/thread" timestamp="1404618400" author="@tinkeringtechie"]Agreed, very disappointed but exactly what I expecting/dreading. Oh well, I guess it's better than nothing for some people. If it's an option they might as well make it a good option though...

On #4, the wiring may be in place, but the location is very unfortunate. It looks like they crammed it between the water heater switch and "power center" which isn't enough room for the SeeLevel. Not the most straightforward upgrade unfortunately.[/quote][font face="arial" size="3"]
Good catch. I missed the placement issue. I[/font][font face="arial" size="3"][/font][font face="arial" size="3"]t's not clear the tank monitor is really an option. [/font][font face="arial" size="3"]Although it's part of the optional [/font][font face="arial" size="3"]XL Living Package,[/font][font face="arial" size="3"] t[/font][font face="arial" size="3"]hat package has  become a de facto standard. Maybe LL will figure this one out and either truly offer the SeeLevel as an option or offer the wiring installed without the KIB display panel. Offering the Fantastic fans and including the shower skylight tell me LL is reading this forum and/or listening to their customers. That's a good thing  
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[funpilot]

I asked for the SeeLevel and they passed on that. John, is this panel by the door or next to the cooktop?  Either way, there could be room above or below that panel to install the SeeLevel monitor and just leave the other one to cover the hole.  That way you can use the wiring....? 

[icq102]

[quote source="/post/1881/thread" timestamp="1404656145" author="@funpilot"]I asked for the SeeLevel and they passed on that. John, is this panel by the door or next to the cooktop?  Either way, there could be room above or below that panel to install the SeeLevel monitor and just leave the other one to cover the hole.  That way you can use the wiring....? [/quote]Next to the cooktop.

[funpilot]

John, so there should be room above the pic you took to put in the SeeLevel if someone wanted to?  

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1881/thread" timestamp="1404656145" author="@funpilot"]I asked for the SeeLevel and they passed on that. John, is this panel by the door or next to the cooktop?  Either way, there could be room above or below that panel to install the SeeLevel monitor and just leave the other one to cover the hole.  That way you can use the wiring....? [/quote]If it's anything like the 21' models (looks like it is) then there's plenty of room on that wall for the SeeLevel. If you plan on using the SeeLevel instead of the probe monitor then I would have them leave the probe monitor off entirely. You'll save yourself a dozen holes in your tanks and you won't need to cover up the hole in the wall (or leave the disconnected monitor in the wall). The wires aren't very difficult to run for the SeeLevel. There's actually only one wire that has to go through the floor and it's shared by all three sensors. There are already a couple grommets on that kitchen partition that you could probably run that wire through. Other than that, it needs ground and 12V which could be shared with the "power station".

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1881/thread" timestamp="1404656145" author="@funpilot"]I asked for the SeeLevel and they passed on that. John, is this panel by the door or next to the cooktop?  Either way, there could be room above or below that panel to install the SeeLevel monitor and just leave the other one to cover the hole.  That way you can use the wiring....? [/quote][font face="arial" size="3"]The problem with leaving the old monitor panel in place is you'll have to explain to the 7 year old: "Grandad, why are there two tank monitor panels in your camper?" 

Go with TT's plan if you can.
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[icq102]

[quote source="/post/1871/thread" timestamp="1404527353" author="@funpilot"]What are the dimensions of the bunk beds?[/quote]27 in wide 73 in wide

[icq102]

[quote source="/post/1885/thread" timestamp="1404675188" author="@funpilot"]John, so there should be room above the pic you took to put in the SeeLevel if someone wanted to?  [/quote]Yes there is 8 in between the top of the current monitor and the bottom of the microwave enclosure.

[funpilot]

Thanks again John.  

[sam]

[quote source="/post/1888/thread" timestamp="1404679717" author="@tinkeringtechie"][quote source="/post/1881/thread" timestamp="1404656145" author="@funpilot"]I asked for the SeeLevel and they passed on that. John, is this panel by the door or next to the cooktop?  Either way, there could be room above or below that panel to install the SeeLevel monitor and just leave the other one to cover the hole.  That way you can use the wiring....? [/quote]If it's anything like the 21' models (looks like it is) then there's plenty of room on that wall for the SeeLevel. If you plan on using the SeeLevel instead of the probe monitor then I would have them leave the probe monitor off entirely. You'll save yourself a dozen holes in your tanks and you won't need to cover up the hole in the wall (or leave the disconnected monitor in the wall). The wires aren't very difficult to run for the SeeLevel. There's actually only one wire that has to go through the floor and it's shared by all three sensors. There are already a couple grommets on that kitchen partition that you could probably run that wire through. Other than that, it needs ground and 12V which could be shared with the "power station".[/quote]



Where did you connect the ground. It seem to need a ground to the battery and not to the frame or  converter. Any thoughts???

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/8522/thread" timestamp="1427428610" author="@littlerichie"][quote source="/post/1888/thread" timestamp="1404679717" author="@tinkeringtechie"]If it's anything like the 21' models (looks like it is) then there's plenty of room on that wall for the SeeLevel. If you plan on using the SeeLevel instead of the probe monitor then I would have them leave the probe monitor off entirely. You'll save yourself a dozen holes in your tanks and you won't need to cover up the hole in the wall (or leave the disconnected monitor in the wall). The wires aren't very difficult to run for the SeeLevel. There's actually only one wire that has to go through the floor and it's shared by all three sensors. There are already a couple grommets on that kitchen partition that you could probably run that wire through. Other than that, it needs ground and 12V which could be shared with the "power station".[/quote]

Where did you connect the ground. It seem to need a ground to the battery and not to the frame or  converter. Any thoughts???[/quote]I grounded to the frame. The battery is also grounded to the frame. I think LL grounds most DC devices to the frame (water pump, etc...).

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/8522/thread" timestamp="1427428610" author="@littlerichie"]
Where did you connect the ground. It seem to need a ground to the battery and not to the frame or  converter. Any thoughts???[/quote][font size="3"]Agree with TinkeringTechie. The SeeLevel wants the ground as close electrically as possible to the battery. Ground the SeeLevel panel to the closest point on the frame. That's the way mine is wired and it works fine.The massive aluminum frame is the best ground conductor you can get short of a dedicated wire directly back to the battery negative terminal. That said, I would run the common ground wire for the sensors separately from the panel. So run two conductor cable from the panel to the sensors in sequence daisy chain fashion.
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