newBearcat 21 RBS

[christianm]

[quote source="/post/17264/thread" timestamp="1450715925" author="@christianm"][quote source="/post/17239/thread" timestamp="1450484730" author="@charliem"][font size="3"]I too am confused. The decal proves it is a Bearcat; the interior shot looks like a 21RBS, the kitchen counter looks like the new type. But no indication of any 21 ft. Bearcats on the LL website. Also, no indication of the BHS version anywhere. The WH has moved to the side and something looks like a hood over the stove. What's that?

So what is available? Earth to LL, over.
[/font][/quote]Livin Lite, here! (Copy? Over? 10-4? ) 

I'm not actually sure what in the world is going on. I haven't been informed that we were no longer making BearCats, and I know that the website has been updated recently. Looks like there might have been some communication lines crossed somewhere :-) 

Will check with our guys and see if I can come up with any answers! 

Thanks, 

Christian [/quote]OK! Sorry for the delay in answer- here is what I was able to find out! 

The Bearcat 21 BHS is not the website, because it is not available for regular order/production. The Bearcat 21 BHS was a limited-edition, special order; commissioned specifically by American RV in Oregon. Not sure how many were made, but it was very few and they are not currently available for reorder from the factory. 

The Bearcat 21 BHS is just one of Bearcats floorplans, though. You can still purchase traditional Bearcat pop up, travel trailer or toy hauler floor plans through any Bearcat dealer. 

Hope this helps! 

Christian 

[shake973]

[quote source="/post/17352/thread" timestamp="1451321387" author="@christianm"][quote source="/post/17264/thread" timestamp="1450715925" author="@christianm"]Livin Lite, here! (Copy? Over? 10-4? ) 

I'm not actually sure what in the world is going on. I haven't been informed that we were no longer making BearCats, and I know that the website has been updated recently. Looks like there might have been some communication lines crossed somewhere :-) 

Will check with our guys and see if I can come up with any answers! 

Thanks, 

Christian [/quote]OK! Sorry for the delay in answer- here is what I was able to find out! 

The Bearcat 21 BHS is not the website, because it is not available for regular order/production. The Bearcat 21 BHS was a limited-edition, special order; commissioned specifically by American RV in Oregon. Not sure how many were made, but it was very few and they are not currently available for reorder from the factory. 

The Bearcat 21 BHS is just one of Bearcats floorplans, though. You can still purchase traditional Bearcat pop up, travel trailer or toy hauler floor plans through any Bearcat dealer. 

Hope this helps! 

Christian [/quote]

[shake973]

[quote source="/post/17352/thread" timestamp="1451321387" author="@christianm"][quote source="/post/17264/thread" timestamp="1450715925" author="@christianm"]Livin Lite, here! (Copy? Over? 10-4? ) 

I'm not actually sure what in the world is going on. I haven't been informed that we were no longer making BearCats, and I know that the website has been updated recently. Looks like there might have been some communication lines crossed somewhere :-) 

Will check with our guys and see if I can come up with any answers! 

Thanks, 

Christian [/quote]OK! Sorry for the delay in answer- here is what I was able to find out! 

The Bearcat 21 BHS is not the website, because it is not available for regular order/production. The Bearcat 21 BHS was a limited-edition, special order; commissioned specifically by American RV in Oregon. Not sure how many were made, but it was very few and they are not currently available for reorder from the factory. 

The Bearcat 21 BHS is just one of Bearcats floorplans, though. You can still purchase traditional Bearcat pop up, travel trailer or toy hauler floor plans through any Bearcat dealer. 

Hope this helps! 

Christian [/quote]

[rwc]

So far...  While out trailer is at the dealer being attended to heres what I find perplexing. I purchased 2 Dry-wave 1000 air driers and three 4lb tubs of Damp-Rid. After 4-5 days (raining) the Damp-Rid tubs where filled and the water drip ring all around the skylight were gone. After viewing/reading youtube and related articles I have come to the conclusion that my bathroom problem is condensation related. My dealer stated they will take apart inspect and reseal the sky light, look for any problems with the roof seal and work to find the leak issue in the slide area. They (dealer) had another customers livinlite trailer with the same bathroom problems, water pooling on the floor from the water ring formed all around the skylight. How much condensation do you get in your trailers? This is to say the least, ridiculous.

[djsamuel]

[quote source="/post/17832/thread" timestamp="1453051785" author="@rwc"]So far...  While out trailer is at the dealer being attended to heres what I find perplexing. I purchased 2 Dry-wave 1000 air driers and three 4lb tubs of Damp-Rid. After 4-5 days (raining) the Damp-Rid tubs where filled and the water drip ring all around the skylight were gone. After viewing/reading youtube and related articles I have come to the conclusion that my bathroom problem is condensation related. My dealer stated they will take apart inspect and reseal the sky light, look for any problems with the roof seal and work to find the leak issue in the slide area. They (dealer) had another customers livinlite trailer with the same bathroom problems, water pooling on the floor from the water ring formed all around the skylight. How much condensation do you get in your trailers? This is to say the least, ridiculous.[/quote]I get no condensation in the bathroom, although I don't have a skylight.  There are some here that have the skylight and it would be interesting to see if they have this issue.

Perhaps you have another source of moisture causing your humidity to be so high.

[billmoore]

Glad I saw this thread... went out and checked ours today, and we have lots of condensation, and it has been dripping onto the carpet tiles, and those carpet tiles are now all moldy. Will need to remove them. I opened up the side vents (which are on all the toyhaulers for venting any fuel fumes), cracked open the ceiling fans, and cracked open the side window to get some airflow in there which will hopefully help.

[rwc]

Bill, I would have replied sooner but I've been crying in my beer with the Seahawks loss to Carolina. Glad this caught your attention. So the question is, Why all the condensation?

[solds88]

[font face="comic sans ms" size="3"]I have a 21RBS with a skylight and no condensation problems, ever.  Do both RWC and Billmoore live in the Northwest?? Maybe this is an environmentally induced problem? Roof leaks can be very hard to find, because of capillary action. You can try tilting the trailer nose up or nose down and observing the results, after a good rain. Also putting newspaper on the floor to find where a water trail starts.       [/font]

[djsamuel]

[quote timestamp="1453066164" author="@james" source="/post/17837/thread"][font face="comic sans ms" size="3"]I have a 21RBS with a skylight and no condensation problems, ever.  Do both RWC and Billmoore live in the Northwest?? Maybe this is an environmentally induced problem? Roof leaks can be very hard to find, because of capillary action. You can try tilting the trailer nose up or nose down and observing the results, after a good rain. Also putting newspaper on the floor to find where a water trail starts.       [/font][/quote]Does the rear door on the toy haulers seal properly?  I wonder if even a small amount of moisture is getting inside the seal and then increasing the humidity a lot.  This seems like an awful lot of condensation.

[rwc]

[quote source="/post/17837/thread" timestamp="1453066164" author="@james"][font face="comic sans ms" size="3"]I have a 21RBS with a skylight and no condensation problems, ever.  Do both RWC and Billmoore live in the Northwest?? Maybe this is an environmentally induced problem? Roof leaks can be very hard to find, because of capillary action. You can try tilting the trailer nose up or nose down and observing the results, after a good rain. Also putting newspaper on the floor to find where a water trail starts.       [/font][/quote]We both live in WA.

[billmoore]

Yeah we both live in western WA where it rains 4 out of 5 days from Nov 1 to April 1. The few days that aren't rainy usually have dramatic temperature swings which contribute to condensation.

Moss and mold grow everywhere here...

[billmoore]

Does the rear door on the toy haulers seal properly?  I wonder if even a small amount of moisture is getting inside the seal and then increasing the humidity a lot.  This seems like an awful lot of condensation.

My rear door has zero moisture around it most of the moisture is in the kitchen and bath area which are up against the uninsulated front storage compartment. Storage area is dry. Inside kitchen cabinets are dry.

I could find every aluminum stud in the wall and ceiling in the front half of the trailer by the beads of condensation along them. I'm 99.9% sure this is not a roof leak.

[billmoore]

[quote source="/post/17836/thread" timestamp="1453066142" author="@rwc"]Bill, I would have replied sooner but I've been crying in my beer with the Seahawks loss to Carolina. Glad this caught your attention. So the question is, Why all the condensation? [/quote]Yeah that game sucked!

My guess is the combination of high humidity and the short spells we get where the temps drop into the low 20's at night. I haven't gone in the trailer to see this, but I know when my truck is parked outside during one of those quick temp drops, the next morning there will be frost on the inside of my windshield. I suspect frost is forming inside on all of the conductive metal surfaces and then melting when it warms up the next day...

[pinstriper]

[quote source="/post/17842/thread" author="@billmoore" timestamp="1453072724"][quote timestamp="1453066142" author="@rwc" source="/post/17836/thread"]Bill, I would have replied sooner but I've been crying in my beer with the Seahawks loss to Carolina. Glad this caught your attention. So the question is, Why all the condensation? [/quote]Yeah that game sucked!

My guess is the combination of high humidity and the short spells we get where the temps drop into the low 20's at night. I haven't gone in the trailer to see this, but I know when my truck is parked outside during one of those quick temp drops, the next morning there will be frost on the inside of my windshield. I suspect frost is forming inside on all of the conductive metal surfaces and then melting when it warms up the next day...
[/quote]That's exactly what's happening, but it still requires moisture to be inside in the first place. et rid of the moisture, nothing to condense.

You still need to seal the doors and windows, etc. and then get the moisture out. We put a dehumidifier in the trailer and run it from time to time while it is sitting idle, as we know the door doesn't have a tight seal.

And, of course, as noted in recent threads, check to make sure you (generic, not Bill specifically) don't have the windows actually locked slightly open.

[billmoore]

Yeah I think I'll try the dehumidifier, and run it every couple of weeks.