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SeeLevel Tank Monitor on 21RBS

Started by charliem, March 06, 2014, 04:22:45 PM

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jtelles3993

Yep you nailed it. Each of the three tanks have 2 14ga wires coming from the OEM panel, which is a [a href="http://www.rvpartscenter.com/Image/20401.jpg"]KIB Micro Monitor[/a]. Each 14ga wire is spliced down to 18ga near each tank --> red and white. The 18ga red wire is run into a KIB capacitor where it splits 3 other 18ga wires --> orange, green yellow --> which run to the tank probes. The 18ga white wire is obviouly my ground and it runs to another probe at the bottom of the tank, away from the others.



charliem

[font size="3"]Surfsup,

I think I understand, sort of. Are there a total of three pairs (red & white) coming from the panel, one pair to each tank??  Or is there only one pair coming from the panel, which then splits out to the three tanks?? From research I think the little red molded things are actually resistor networks containing three resistors. Apparently KIB uses the probes to switch 1,2, or 3 resistors in parallel as the fluid level rises. Either way it's still a four probe system subject to all the inaccuracies we've grown accustomed to.

Assuming there are three red and white pairs coming to the panel you can use your blue-->red and  black-->white scheme at each tank. Then, at the panel just splice the three red tank wires to the blue wire from the panel and splice the three white tank wires to the black wire from the panel.  Ground the black panel wire and connect the red panel wire to +12V. discard the resistor networks and the wires connecting them to the probes. This method allows you to use the three 2-wire cables routed as they are now. Just add enough wire to allow optimum placement of the SeeLevel sensors.

I recommend you follow SeeLevel's suggestion of using painter's tape for trial positioning. The 3M adhesive on the sensors is awsome; you only get one chance. After you've mounted the sensors, spray them with the recommended undercoating rubber from an auto store. They'll stay for ever.
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Charlie
NW Florida

jtelles3993

There are only three single wires leaving the OEM panel and they appear to be the tank probe feed wires. I get what you're saying about those, I.e., tie those into the  harness blue wire that snaps into the SeeLevel monitor. We are getting close to leaving on a cross country trip so I'm going to pack this up and do it when I get back. Once I start cutting and splicing there's no turning back and I don't have time to correct any unknowns. And like you suggested I want time to position the 709 sensors before committing the 3M glue! Thanks!

charliem

[font size="3"]Good plan. Take your time and do it right the first time. Let us know when you return.
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Any 20 minute job can be stretched
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Charlie
NW Florida

whoofit

Just installed mine today. This thread helped a lot. Was a breeze actually. Had to sand the tanks a bit and relocate a bracket on the fresh tank but smooth sailing.

Can't wait to see that trick Tinkeringtechie monitor in action.

tinkeringtechie



Quote from: @whoofit" source="/post/8834/thread" timestamp="1428112880
Can't wait to see that trick Tinkeringtechie monitor in action.


The tricked out monitor is temporarily on hold. My shop is in boxes right now. I'm thinking probably a fall project.
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jtelles3993

Bringing this thread back, I plan to get back in this project soon..

jtelles3993

Quote from: @whoofit" source="/post/8834/thread" timestamp="1428112880Just installed mine today. This thread helped a lot. Was a breeze actually. Had to sand the tanks a bit and relocate a bracket on the fresh tank but smooth sailing.

Can't wait to see that trick Tinkeringtechie monitor in action.



Whoofit, how're you liking the SeeLevel?

whoofit

[quote source="/post/14668/thread" timestamp="1440790941" author="@surfsup"][quote source="/post/8834/thread" timestamp="1428112880" author="@whoofit"][/quote]
Whoofit, how're you liking the SeeLevel?[/quote][p]I like it. Actually, it's hard to imagine not having it now. Feels like it's always been there. Is one of the more useful additions I've done to our trailer to date. Was wondering if you had gotten around to installing yours.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Installed ours into an access panel next to the battery monitor and surge suppressor remote display. I like it there to help see what's happening while dumping.  Flushing especially.
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jtelles3993

You did a really great job! Yea, I've put it off too long. Hope to get on it soon. Any advice?

whoofit

[quote source="/post/14711/thread" timestamp="1440956501" author="@surfsup"]You did a really great job! Yea, I've put it off too long. Hope to get on it soon. Any advice?[/quote][p]Thanks! [/p][p]
[/p][p]Well I take it you are not in any hurry as you already have working gauges. We did not so I needed to run the wiring too. That was the most difficult part for me to keep the wiring looking professionally done. I can't think of anything else to add to the info I've gleaned right here. I thought the written instructions and addendums that came with the unit were well done and left nothing out.[/p][p]
[/p][p]I too hope to see your completed install soon!
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charliem

Quote from: @surfsup" source="/post/14711/thread" timestamp="1440956501You did a really great job! Yea, I've put it off too long. Hope to get on it soon. Any advice?
[font size="3"]Surfsup,

Be sure to temporarily position the sensors on the tanks with duct tape. Then fill and empty the tanks to confirm they work the way you want them to. You only get one shot with the permanent adhesive. Afterwards spray the sensors with auto undercoating spray to protect them.
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Any 20 minute job can be stretched
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Charlie
NW Florida

whoofit

[p] Hey, wait a minute Charlie, above you said to use Painters Tape!... :P[/p][p]
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jtelles3993


charliem

[font size="3"]Oh darn. Old age and failing memory I guess. Sorry. I can guarantee it will happen again too.

Painter's tape might be best, but if you use Chinese duct tape it will either fall off by itself or eat through the tank walls.
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Any 20 minute job can be stretched
to a week with proper planning

Charlie
NW Florida