Water heater quick question & Other Pre-purchase question

[funpilot]

Does the water heater allow you to heat it with both propane and electric for fastest recovery?

[djsamuel]

The water heater in our 2013 21BHS is gas only.

[tinkeringtechie]

If you get the 2-way water heater option you can use both at the same time.

[funpilot]

[quote source="/post/1034/thread" timestamp="1400360966" author="@tinkeringtechie"]If you get the 2-way water heater option you can use both at the same time.[/quote][p]Oh, "Great One", I am very close to ordering a 21RBS.  What options would you ask for?  Let me start my list[/p][p]
[/p][p]1. New vinyl floor[/p][p]2. 2 way heater option or tankless (if I can talk them into it if it makes sense)[/p][p]3. Larger TV or just give me the TV prep and I install my own ( I see 32" 12 volts available)[/p][p]4. Black water flush[/p][p]5. XL Package[/p][p]6. Aluminum cabinetry skin[/p][p]7. Low profile A/C (is the Polar Club too small for my 100 degree days in the South?)[/p][p]8. Do I want the off road tires/axle?[/p][p]9. Convection microwave[/p][p]10.  Did I read somewhere that you can get an oven installed and give up some cabinet space?[/p][p]11. Maid[/p][p]
[/p][p]Your thoughts?[/p][p]
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[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1035/thread" timestamp="1400361475" author="@funpilot"][quote source="/post/1034/thread" timestamp="1400360966" author="@tinkeringtechie"]If you get the 2-way water heater option you can use both at the same time.[/quote][p]Oh, "Great One", I am very close to ordering a 21RBS.  What options would you ask for?  Let me start my list[/p][p]
[/p][p]1. New vinyl floor[/p][p]2. 2 way heater option or tankless (if I can talk them into it if it makes sense)[/p][p]3. Larger TV or just give me the TV prep and I install my own ( I see 32" 12 volts available)[/p][p]4. Black water flush[/p][p]5. XL Package[/p][p]6. Aluminum cabinetry skin[/p][p]7. Low profile A/C (is the Polar Club too small for my 100 degree days in the South?)[/p][p]8. Do I want the off road tires/axle?[/p][p]9. Convection microwave[/p][p]10.  Did I read somewhere that you can get an oven installed and give up some cabinet space?[/p][p]11. Maid[/p][p]
[/p][p]Your thoughts?[/p][p]
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[/p][/quote]Everyone is great here, and we all picked different options for different reason. Here are my thoughts:

1- the vinyl looks nice, but I don't think it will be as durable. Since durability is more important than looks for me, I wouldn't get it.
2- The 2-way option is a small price to pay for the convenience. I'd say go for it. Tankless on the other hand... I can tolerate a lot of short showers for $1,000
3- Definitely just get the TV prep... you'll certainly be able to find a better TV for less money and it's easy to install.
4- Some like it, some don't. There's another pre-purchase thread where we discuss pros and cons.
5- You almost have to unless you just want bare bones.
6- Sorry- no experience here
7- I'd go for the 13.5kbtu... bigger is better right? 
8- Depends on your driving habits. I got it for ferry loading, others for gas station ramps.
9- We camp without hookups frequently, so the microwave would just be taking up space. We ordered without it to get more storage, and on trips with hookups we bring a large toaster oven.
10- I haven't heard or seen that one.
11- Didn't see that option either 

[charliem]

[font size="3"][font face="arial"]I'll second Tinkeringtechie and raise him some:

1> Not having seen the vinyl flooring I'd have to note that, while it will improve appearance and feel it won't do much for thermal insulation.

2> Tankless requires porpane only and a lot of it. 120V 30 Amp not near sufficient. Maybe if you want 0.5 GPM luke warm water. And it will add to the gray water problem while it wastes water starting up. I'd say no in an RV.

3> I bought a 19" 12 volt by Majestic, works fine. Remember TVs are a secondary consideration while camping.

7> The only real advantage to the smaller A/C is the ability to run on a 2000 watt generator. Otherwise go 13.5.

11> Important to specify appearance, personality, and  hourly rate.

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[funpilot]

Thank you guys for your thoughtful responses.  I will let you know what I hear from Livinlite on the stove option and will try to find where I think I read it.  (Could be confusing it with another product.) FYI, I am debating between this and a weird other trailer, the Trailmanor. http://trailmanor.com/wordpress/

No direct comparison but if you have not looked at them, take a few beers and enjoy a trip to wonderland (aka "Does this really work?).  My primary interest is the towing advantage and the extra floor space I can get for a dog we will bring along (Alaskan Malamute) 3124KD. I am 80% for livinlite at this point. Thus, all my questions.  If this is not appropriate for this forum, delete this or ask me to.

[shark24]

We have a trailmanor and by the time we get it setup and ready to camp there is so much work we are literally pouring sweat and must take shower. Ours is a 1996 model and has been kept in a 30' enclosed building for the past 11 years. It was well taken care of but is falling apart. Going to try to get rid of it to someone who might use it at a deer camp etc. We are going to go LL with no rot etc. We want to be able to park, level, hookup and actually camp not have so much  work to do to enjoy. By the way, so much work for my husband that I just get hotel rooms for our vacations for the past 7 years because he doesn't get much of a vacation having to mess with putting it together.

[pinstriper]

[quote source="/post/1044/thread" timestamp="1400428016" author="@funpilot"]Thank you guys for your thoughtful responses.  I will let you know what I hear from Livinlite on the stove option and will try to find where I think I read it.  (Could be confusing it with another product.) FYI, I am debating between this and a weird other trailer, the Trailmanor. http://trailmanor.com/wordpress/

No direct comparison but if you have not looked at them, take a few beers and enjoy a trip to wonderland (aka "Does this really work?).  My primary interest is the towing advantage and the extra floor space I can get for a dog we will bring along (Alaskan Malamute) 3124KD. I am 80% for livinlite at this point. Thus, all my questions.  If this is not appropriate for this forum, delete this or ask me to. [/quote][p]1. Concur with charlie on the vinyl. I'm in the middle of a beer break in the middle of putting down interlocking foam floor tiles. Soft underfoot, provides insulation from the cold aluminum. Also makes it more comfortable for the hounds, though getting them off the bed is a bit of a struggle.
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3. Agree on the tv part. We have found the built-in DVD player handy, though. We could do that with the laptop, but the tv is bigger and up on a mount.
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[/p][p]4. I have a gnawing suspicion I'll wish I had this some day.[/p][p]
6. I'd love to know the weight differential. Would definitely go for it if I had towing capacity to spare.

10. The microwave in ours is a three-way micro, convection, broiler. Can't think of anything we'd do in an oven we couldn't do in that. I'm not going camping to roast a 15 pound turkey. We do most of our cooking outside on a campstove to keep the interior clean, and am about to add a portable gas grill to the mix. I suppose you could go with [a href="http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-Camping-Outdoor-Burner/dp/B0013LLSZG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1400431487&sr=8-2&keywords=camp+oven"]something like this[/a].


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