Ford livinlite trailer

[drdave]

Opinions? I do like the floorplan.   102" wide also.....wow!

http://www.fordcampers.com/ford-traveltrailers.htm


This page shows a picture of a toyhauler at the bottom.

http://www.fordcampers.com/index.html

[daplumbr]

It has some nice features. I like the sealed and heated underbelly and the 15 inch wheels. Layout is fine, but the interior looks pretty much like every other RV interior I see at RV shows. Great bathroom. Small grey tank. I don't get the interest in a huge window in the front of the bed. That would be cold at night and cause a draft right on the bed, in addition to the privacy issues? Must be heavy-duty construction with a GVWR just shy of 4 tons. If I had a Ford truck, I might go take a look. Not something I'd pull with a Chevy or Ram

[charliem]

[font size="3"]8.5 feet wide, 5144#dry, 11'4" high, smaller waste tanks, fiberglass exterior and rubber roof! WHAT are they thinking? I think I'd go Lance.
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[pinstriper]

[quote timestamp="1451350943" author="@charliem" source="/post/17358/thread"][font size="3"]8.5 feet wide, 5144#dry, 11'4" high, smaller waste tanks, fiberglass exterior and rubber roof! WHAT are they thinking?[/font][/quote]It's like opposite of everything they've made the LL name on.

It's a good looking rig, and well featured-up. But sooooooo many DQ's. Any mention of how thick the plywood they used on the floor is ?

[charliem]

[font size="3"]On the home page they mention aluminum trailers and light weight aluminum toy haulers. When you get to the product page the aluminum reference has disappeared.
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[farmboy]

It is beginning to appear that Thor bought the rights to the  LivinLite name in order  to use it on campers that may or may not have much in common with the 'old' LivinLite.    Some changes are understandable; as noted elsewhere, one simply does not see many LL's on the road or at campgrounds.   Thor wants to increase unit sales; understandable.  I for one was not upset with the change to wood cabinets, which was offset for me by the solid countertops and stainless steel sinks.  The use of single axles on most of the now reduced line of Camplites is troubling.  The Ford  trailer  is so far removed from the LL of the past that it is truly amazing (and not in a good way).   I have learned so much on this site from current owners and those considering a LL.    I had seriously considered getting a CL; it was the only trailer I would have purchased.  But  my wife and  I  have decided that a used small Class C (such as a Winnebago View) will better meet our needs.   Current  Camplite owners:  you have something to be thankful for as the new year approaches; a truly unique (in a good way) trailer.   I will continue to drop by to learn about black tanks, LP issues,  great campgrounds, etc.    And to enjoy the humor.   While I will still suggest that friends consider a LL, I won't be as enthusiastic  about the new models as I will be about used  LL units.  

[aggie79]

[quote source="/post/17361/thread" author="@farmboy" timestamp="1451352924"]It is beginning to appear that Thor bought the rights to the  LivinLite name in order  to use it on campers that may or may not have much in common with the 'old' LivinLite.    Some changes are understandable; as noted elsewhere, one simply does not see many LL's on the road or at campgrounds.   Thor wants to increase unit sales; understandable.  I for one was not upset with the change to wood cabinets, which was offset for me by the solid countertops and stainless steel sinks.  The use of single axles on most of the now reduced line of Camplites is troubling.  The Ford  trailer  is so far removed from the LL of the past that it is truly amazing (and not in a good way).   I have learned so much on this site from current owners and those considering a LL.    I had seriously considered getting a CL; it was the only trailer I would have purchased.  But  my wife and  I  have decided that a used small Class C (such as a Winnebago View) will better meet our needs.   Current  Camplite owners:  you have something to be thankful for as the new year approaches; a truly unique (in a good way) trailer.   I will continue to drop by to learn about black tanks, LP issues,  great campgrounds, etc.    And to enjoy the humor.   While I will still suggest that friends consider a LL, I won't be as enthusiastic  about the new models as I will be about used  LL units.  [/quote]
We have "been on the sidelines" waiting until finances and timing (nearer to retirement) worked out so that we could purchase a CampLite travel trailer.  Unfortunately, it appears that much of what we loved about CampLite is disappearing.  While I liked the "older" all aluminum and/or Azdel cabinetry, I can live with the generic pablum RV interiors.  I like to build and tinker so I can also live with QC issues.  Hopefully, either there won't be changes to the aluminum structure and exterior, or that we will be able to purchase a CampLite before this happens.

[popup2012]

This is the reason I just bought my new 16 TBS.  I found one with the double axle and the the old style interior and jumped on it.  It must have been one of the last one made.

[drdave]

Here's some pictures of a Ford Toyhauler for sale:

http://www.rvtrader.com/dealers/Link-RV-Center-Rice-Lake-2978770/listing/2016-Livin-Lite-Ford-RV-24FBA-116633234

[scbillandjane]

We too purchased a 2015 quickly because of the changes. An installer at the dealer said, " Congratulations. You have the last of the good ones." I don't understand why Livinlite doesn't use the Airstream as a good example. The Airstream has been around the longest,is the most expensive trailer with probably the biggest profit margin, and has the best reputation deserved or not. Aluminum is the key. I was surprised at my first look at a Camplite that the roof was aluminum. Wow, a sheet of aluminum roof with no rivets like the Airstream and no rubber! Anyone who has ever owned a riveted aluminum boat knows that a leak is almost inevitable. Wow, light weight. Wow an aluminum floor not like the plywood floor in an Airstream. Almost the same weight as the Trailmanor that I had traded which was also all aluminum. Item after item was better than what I had before with a few trade offs such as more wind resistance. Wow an aluminum frame!. The old trailer had a rusty steel frame that I was going to have to strip and paint while laying on my back under the trailer. There are so many nice touches like the hot water heater bypass, and the inside water heater switch that the last trailer didn't have. Wow a double axle so a blow out doesn't result in so much destruction.
I sure don't understand a Ford trailer. I have nothing against Ford trucks, but why abandon the owners of other brands? Why almost double the weight of a 21 foot trailer to 22 feet with wider more wind resistant front. With that weight and frontal area there is no SUV or mid size truck that could pull it comfortably after it is loaded with normal camp gear. At this weight and lack of aluminum, there are many, many cheaper more available choices. Why would Ford turn to aluminum in the bed of their pickup but add heavier fiberglass to their trailer? I sure hope that Camplite doesn't follow Ford's Mercury division in to oblivion.
This forum is a gold mine of information that Camplite needs to study everyday. I am so appreciative of the expert advice because I don't have the experience or the "knack" of doing things to improve the camping experience. I am copying many of the forum suggestions. I hope Camplite returns to what people loved and doesn't become Campheavy.