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Title: what about rodents?
Post by: leslie on October 28, 2014, 11:54:10 PM
My Camplite will be stored for a while on grass. Do any Campliters have trouble with rodents getting inside the camper? Where are the most likely points of entry? Pinstriper mentioned rodents getting into the campers in another thread.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: pinstriper on October 29, 2014, 12:20:05 AM
For the record, I didn't mention any actual experience with rodents, only paranoia ABOUT having an experience with rodents !

I would be very interested in hearing the myriad approached out veteran camping brethren and sistren have taken WRT defeating rodents at their villainous designs.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: leslie on October 29, 2014, 12:26:28 AM
Quote from: @pinstriper" source="/post/4542/thread" timestamp="1414552805For the record, I didn't mention any actual experience with rodents, only paranoia ABOUT having an experience with rodents !

I would be very interested in hearing the myriad approached out veteran camping brethren and sistren have taken WRT defeating rodents at their villainous designs.



I don't have paranoia about rodents -I have rodentphobia. My fearless beagle will kill them and eat them - ugh! I really don't want to go through this with her in the camper. I will wait to hear if this has been a problem.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: pinstriper on October 29, 2014, 12:29:46 AM
I recommend against locking your beagle in the trailer as a winter storage strategy. Unless you don't like her...nah. It's still a lousy idea.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: pinstriper on October 29, 2014, 12:31:44 AM
Also, I wish I could think of something pithy to say while posting [a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOv5ZjAOpC8"]this[/a], but I mainly offer it up to freak you out a little.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: leslie on October 29, 2014, 12:53:21 AM
Oh, I can think of something pithy to say, but I try not to use that kind of language!
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: spot1 on October 29, 2014, 07:29:40 AM
We live out in the country and store the TT on a concrete driveway next to the house. No issues, yet!
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: djsamuel on October 29, 2014, 08:59:21 AM
[quote source="/post/4550/thread" timestamp="1414578580" author="@exploringcarolina"]



We live out in the country and store the TT on a concrete driveway next to the house. No issues, yet!

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Exact same situation here.  We have woods next to us, and a large yard with plenty of rodents, snakes, reptiles, etc, and nothing has made it into the camper.  They are sealed up pretty good underneath with foam insulation aprayed into the openings. The camper is stored on our driveway.  Of course the fact that the Camplite's floor is aluminum instead of wood, makes it harder for rodents since they can't gnaw on the opening to make it larger.

Title: what about rodents?
Post by: drdave on October 29, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
[quote source="/post/4551/thread" author="@djsamuel" timestamp="1414583961"]


[quote timestamp="1414578580" author="@exploringcarolina" source="/post/4550/thread"]



We live out in the country and store the TT on a concrete driveway next to the house. No issues, yet!


[/quote]Exact same situation here.  We have woods next to us, and a large yard with plenty of rodents, snakes, reptiles, etc, and nothing has made it into the camper.  They are sealed up pretty good underneath with foam insulation aprayed into the openings. The camper is stored on our driveway.  Of course the fact that the Camplite's floor is aluminum instead of wood, makes it harder for rodents since they can't gnaw on the opening to make it larger.


[/quote]  I agree with you.  I think the camplites are more rodent proof than a normal TT.    While winterizing I did take a pretty good look at things underneath mine, and I didn't see any obvious entry points for rodents.   It seems LL did a pretty good job of sealing every breech to the bottom for hose/pipes/electric and the corners, edges, etc. are all very tight.    You could put a mouse trap or 2 inside if you are overly concerned, but I don't plan on it myself.   

As a side note for rodent proofing your house:  Steel wool is your friend.   I had field mice get in my house and somehow make it up and into my attic.   I went around the exterior and stuffed steel wool in every orafice I could find including the corner covers where my vinyl siding meets, etc., foam sealant elsewhere and haven't had a problem since.   Mice HATE steel wool and won't chew through it.   I have TONS of vole trails everywhere in my lawn.   If anyone has advice on those i'd love to hear it.

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Title: what about rodents?
Post by: supersuit on October 29, 2014, 11:37:56 AM
[font face="comic sans ms"]I live in the woods in the Adirondacks.  I store my trailer outside on the ground with the wheels on wooden boards and trailer leveled.  I put a plastic tarp over the top and down almost to the windows, being careful not to let any ropes or edges of tarp be able to rub and scrape on windows.  This worked fine last year in a cold wet winter--no critters got in my trailer.  It really is quite impervious, being all aluminum.  A mouse would have to eat a hose off and then get up in through the hole--unlikely, I think.[/font]
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: mitch on October 29, 2014, 01:24:16 PM
I've never had one get into my camper (parked on gravel in the back yard full of chipmunks) but I have had them jump up on top of the gray water tank whilst escaping from my dog.  I can't think of any way to prevent that.  I do have some visible space in the opening where the power cables come up from underneath into the space where the converter is.  In my camper thats underneath a dinette seat.  There is some great stuff foam around the cables but it's not a complete job, I keep telling myself to spray a bit more in there but I keep forgetting to remind myself to buy it.    
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: shovelhead on October 29, 2014, 02:21:17 PM
One word..... "Cat"
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: daplumbr on October 29, 2014, 09:21:42 PM
I'm more concerned about mice getting in the furnace, water heater, and refrigerator exterior openings. I just bought Camco insect screens for all exterior openings to prevent entry. I know rodents can't get all the way inside, but they can make an awful mess in those cozy places outside. 
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: pinstriper on October 29, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
[quote source="/post/4562/thread" timestamp="1414599856" author="@mitch"] (parked on gravel in the back yard full of chipmunks)   [/quote][p]One word: .22LR birdshot.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Even Mrs. Pin allows an occasional "thinning of the herd", after the squirrels, chipmonks, mice, and voles set up camp under the hood of my truck and chewed the wires to smithereens.[/p][p]
[/p][p]This is not universal, or even generally applicable advice. I happen to live outside rifle range of my nearest neighbor. I could take them out with C-4 and nobody would bat an eye. Living in the country is different.
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Title: what about rodents?
Post by: mitch on October 29, 2014, 11:42:03 PM
If I were in a more remote setting it may just happen that an occasional chipmunk would be found dead of lead poisoning.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: shortcircuit on November 01, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
Our 14DBS is now covered with an ADCO cover. Underneath, I found two openings in the flooring where cables, hoses, etc. come down through the flooring where some foam sealant was needed. So, great stuff was applied to:

The flooring opening at the rear of the camper, under the Dometic fridge in the compartment next to the Furnace - LP hose, 120 volt cable, 12 volt cable, H/C water lines
The flooring opening behind the power panel under sink cabinet where lots of cabling/hoses come through the floor. Accessed through the left side panel inside the lower right sink cabinet - needed extra sealant.

Just a thought about the steel wool. I am not using it, but if I were I would use copper wool scrubber stuff. It will not rust. An I don't think mice will like it either!

There are also openings at the ends of the aluminum framing in the wheel well area, and the rear of the center aluminum frame tube. However, those openings do not go anywhere into the camper.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: jeffrey on November 05, 2014, 09:30:19 PM
I wish home depot would sell those big plastic bait stations you see around hospitals and restaurants and what not. Must be some kind of liability issue with that.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: sam on November 06, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: @shortcircuit" source="/post/4710/thread" timestamp="1414873733Our 14DBS is now covered with an ADCO cover. Underneath, I found two openings in the flooring where cables, hoses, etc. come down through the flooring where some foam sealant was needed. So, great stuff was applied to:

The flooring opening at the rear of the camper, under the Dometic fridge in the compartment next to the Furnace - LP hose, 120 volt cable, 12 volt cable, H/C water lines
The flooring opening behind the power panel under sink cabinet where lots of cabling/hoses come through the floor. Accessed through the left side panel inside the lower right sink cabinet - needed extra sealant.

Just a thought about the steel wool. I am not using it, but if I were I would use copper wool scrubber stuff. It will not rust. An I don't think mice will like it either!

There are also openings at the ends of the aluminum framing in the wheel well area, and the rear of the center aluminum frame tube. However, those openings do not go anywhere into the camper.


Quote from: @antares4141" source="/post/4815/thread" timestamp="1415237419I wish home depot would sell those big plastic bait stations you see around hospitals and restaurants and what not. Must be some kind of liability issue with that.

Title: what about rodents?
Post by: sam on November 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
I am not sure steel wool is a good idea with aluminum. The foam should work.

As concerns rodents and bugs I follow the foillowing practice:

Leave no food in the camper unless it is in a can.

Leave out a bait trap. If the do get in they will probably die before they bread.

Spray around the doors with a home exterior bug spray. (Don not spray the doors or handles.) Spray the threasholds.  Any crawling bugs will not get far.  It also last for months. Note, if you have craing children around, live with the bugs.  

If you want to have fun, get a bug zapping racket. They are great for riding the camper of stray flying bugs like flies and mosquitoes. You can even make it s team event and keep score.
Title: what about rodents?
Post by: drdave on November 09, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
Quote from: @littlerichie" source="/post/4848/thread" timestamp="1415302777I am not sure steel wool is a good idea with aluminum. The foam should work.


If you want to have fun, get a bug zapping racket. They are great for riding the camper of stray flying bugs like flies and mosquitoes. You can even make it s team event and keep score.
Just to be clear... the steel wool is for the house, not the camper.   Wasn't suggesting it be used near aluminum.    The siding on my house is vinyl BTW.


Another bug killer option:


http://www.amazon.com/SKELL-INC-Original-Salt-Gun-BS61/dp/B00AB88UDA/ref=sr_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1415565222&sr=1-1&keywords=bug+a+salt


Title: what about rodents?
Post by: scout on November 15, 2014, 11:16:19 PM
Hi Leslie,

I have had rodent problems with previous wood floor trailers, but nothing yet with the LL. Other forums recommend taking out any textiles / foam mattresses and/or seating cushions to avoid nesting and possible chew spots if you are concerned. (also any food of course!) I have the 13 RDB and there are a few points where they can get in. It is urban legend that any hole the size of a dime (or larger) is a doorway for the little beasts. Roxul insulation is another stopper material that seems to work to keep them out. Hope this helps.

KC