Looks like they may have a new web site and some of the spec's seem new.
Looks like the Aluminum floor is gone: Laminated Floor – 1 7/8" Thick w/Fiberglass, Block Foam & Azdel (No Wood = No Rot)
[quote timestamp="1474340522" source="/post/24765/thread" author="@otisw"]Looks like the Aluminum floor is gone: Laminated Floor – 1 7/8" Thick w/Fiberglass, Block Foam & Azdel (No Wood = No Rot)[/quote]This is what I have in my 28RLS. I'm sure it'll be controversial on here, but I like mine. It's solid and has insulation...no cold toes in the AM! No sqeeks or anything like that. Linoleum over the extruded aluminum floor was not a great solutin IMHO. I notice they kept the aluminum floor in the Toyhaulers which is a wise move for them.
[font size="3"]I have long thought that the cold AL floor could be cured by some sort of layered composite structure if they really wanted to. Apparently they (Thor) did and that's great. Time will tell if it holds up. However, I still like my rubber tile floor. This weekend we removed all the tiles, cleaned them, vacuumed the AL under them, and replaced them. Simple job over two days. Easily cleanable and repairable if needed. Can't do that with the fiberglass/composite/Linoleum floor, but nothing says you can't put thinner rubber mats on top. All around good solution. Also noticed the 21s picked up 500# and 10" in length. Maybe the wood cabinet trim and/or the new floor. Then there is something about dual 5 " double AL frame members. What's that all about?
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I keep getting a security alert when I try to get to their site, can someone post a link to the new site and I'll see if that works.
[quote timestamp="1474389201" source="/post/24776/thread" author="@queen"]I keep getting a security alert when I try to get to their site, can someone post a link to the new site and I'll see if that works.[/quote][a href="http://www.livinlite.com/"]http://www.livinlite.com/[/a]
Thank you!!
I didn't dig into the site, but I poked around last night. It kept me up a bit. As before, I want more pictures!
Ok. There ARE more pictures up today vs last night.
I like the simplicity of the original aluminum floor and then you can do what you want on top of it!
I noticed they switched to leaf springs, along with the 2500 pound axle. Looks like they added double steps.
[quote timestamp="1474382604" source="/post/24774/thread" author="@charliem"][font size="3"] Then there is something about dual 5 " double AL frame members. What's that all about?
[/font][/quote]The 5" double AL frame members look like they are paired with a 3" Tongue Tube Middle Rail
It looks like they will stop using Dexter axles. Will this be an improvement? I don't know.
[font size="3"]They went to leaf springs on CLs, but stayed with Dexter on their toy haulers. And that means........?
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[font size="3"]But the [font size="4"]major[/font] improvement is still the lighted outside speakers. They'll go well with my new unmuffled 15,000 watt generator. Where can I get those?............... :P
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Quote from: @charliem" timestamp="1474473590" source="/post/24807/thread[font size="3"]They went to leaf springs on CLs, but stayed with Dexter on their toy haulers. And that means........?
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I think they are still Dexter axles, just not the torque flex axles. They still have the EZ Lube hubs.
Why would you go back to leaf springs? I thought torque flex axels were smoother pulling.
Quote from: @djsamuel" source="/post/24803/thread" timestamp="1474463428I noticed they switched to leaf springs, along with the 2500 pound axle. Looks like they added double steps.
Jeff at American has my rig as we speak, repacking the bearings (using the gift certificate we got at the rally - yay!) and taking measurements to see about retrofitting the double-step onto our 2014. We'll see if it possible and, also, verify that it reduces instead of increases the height of the top step to the floor.
[quote timestamp="1474486564" author="@sportsman" source="/post/24812/thread"]Why would you go back to leaf springs? I thought torque flex axels were smoother pulling.[/quote]I don't know about ride smoothness, but I know leaf springs are cheaper than dirt. Well, maybe not cheaper, but a lot less expensive than torsion axles of the same brand. That doesn't necessarily make leaf springs worse, but the bushings in the shackles of typical inexpensive leaf springs on trailers are a significant wear item. A recent article in Trailer Life suggested that when (not if) the bushings go bad, replace them with good ones.
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Quote from: @sportsman" timestamp="1474486564" source="/post/24812/threadWhy would you go back to leaf springs? I thought torque flex axels were smoother pulling.
I don't know about ride smoothness, but I know leaf springs are cheaper than dirt. Well, maybe not cheaper, but a lot less expensive than torsion axles of the same brand. That doesn't necessarily make leaf springs worse, but the bushings in the shackles of typical inexpensive leaf springs on trailers are a significant wear item. A recent article in Trailer Life suggested that when (not if) the bushings go bad, replace them with good ones. [/quote]So they went from tandem torque flex axles to a single leaf spring axle?
Sounds like they are making them cheaper to build, not better to own.
Nice purrty website they built there. New style logo is way cool too. Smooth flowing pages lots of pictures and a clean feel.
All to help make sales of a camper that has been cheapened down. They are going to cheapen things down till the camper is nothing like what it was originally supposed to be, but man what a nice website.
My 0.002 cents worth on it.