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Great idea this would probably work for us too.
Very interesting, what kind of receiver is that? It does not look familiar to me?
Michael
It is a typical class 3 receiver with everything removed then 2 tabs were welded on either side to bolt it to the top of the bumper and one that went back to the rear of the pop up to prevent any flexing front to back. It is rock solid.
I would drill a new hole for the pin and cut off the extra bit that slides in the receiver to get it closer to the trailer.
I wanted the carrier to still be usable on my vehicle as well and my vehicle has a rear mounted spare tire so that length in the mounting arm is needed. We did drill a 2nd hole in the carriers mounting arm to place it closer to the unit when it is being used on the pop up.
this is brilliant! I wonder how much weight you can safely carry on it.
The plan is to keep the weight down, no ice chest or generator for example. Not because I do not believe the carrier and receiver are not rock solid, they are but because I have been told pulling a trailer with to much weight at the rear can make it squirrely due to taking weight off the hitch. Not going to put that to the test.
I did something similar, however mine is more permanent. I left off the entire hitch part of the rack. I drilled 4 holes in the rack to accomodate two U-bolts that secure it to the bumper. Then to prevent torsional twisting of the bumper, two bolts were shot through the back of the rack into the trailer box frame.
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Absolutely the same thing- just as you said a more permanent solution- looks great!
khughes222 is that a generator in the green box?
[quote source="/post/22933/thread" timestamp="1468260758" author="@idaho"]khughes222 is that a generator in the green box?[/quote]Either that or his ammo! 8-|
Setup looks efficient khughes222. 8-)
Quote from: @peislander" source="/post/23017/thread" timestamp="1468530631[quote source="/post/22933/thread" timestamp="1468260758" author="@idaho"]khughes222 is that a generator in the green box?
Either that or his ammo! 8-|
Setup looks efficient khughes222. 8-) [/quote]
I have an ammo box ziptied to the bumper, it holds sewer connection parts.
Ammo rides elsewhere.
How is this working out so far? How much load you think it can safely take
What I found is that on roads where you get "bumps" if you will the cargo carrier sort of acts as the end of a whip when it is snapped- it puts a lot of stress on the mount. Once I discovered it had bent a bit we unloaded it and removed it for the trip. We are going to revisit how it attaches. LOL, some of the freeways in New Mexico and Wyoming have some killer "bumps" in them, in fact saw a bike carrier with bike attached just on the shoulder of the road in Wyoming- understood exactly how it had ended up there and was glad I was not going to be surprised by walking to the back of the trailer and finding the carrier and its contents gone.
[quote source="/post/24415/thread" timestamp="1473277403" author="@ajreaper"]What I found is that on roads where you get "bumps" if you will the cargo carrier sort of acts as the end of a whip when it is snapped- it puts a lot of stress on the mount. Once I discovered it had bent a bit we unloaded it and removed it for the trip. We are going to revisit how it attaches. LOL, some of the freeways in New Mexico and Wyoming have some killer "bumps" in them, in fact saw a bike carrier with bike attached just on the shoulder of the road in Wyoming- understood exactly how it had ended up there and was glad I was not going to be surprised by walking to the back of the trailer and finding the carrier and its contents gone.[/quote]This is exactly what several threads warn people about, who then get somewhat bent out of shape (see what I did there ?) at the someone telling them their genius idea isn't going to work because physics.
For very light loads you might get away with it, but the geometry alone puts a lot of torque to a very weak bumper. The carrier itself is probably enough to create twist over time.
Yeah many people have warned of this and the truth is there is no good way around it sort of major modifications. That is why I boxed and reinforced my bumper with the secondary tube tabbed below the frame rails. Even still the amount of weight that can safely be loaded should be kept to a minimum.
Now I don't remember the exact math but for some reason I recall a very distinct memory from a science class that demonstrated that a simple 10lb bowling ball could easily generate something like 2000 lbs of force on impact if dropped on your foot. Now I also know it's not the same physics involved here but seeing how the loads can have an exponential increase based on different scenarios I can only imagine what 50lbs of weight can do while being whipped around behind the camper.
[quote timestamp="1473340897" author="@admin" source="/post/24450/thread"]Yeah many people have warned of this and the truth is there is no good way around it sort of major modifications. That is why I boxed and reinforced my bumper with the secondary tube tabbed below the frame rails. Even still the amount of weight that can safely be loaded should be kept to a minimum.
Now I don't remember the exact math but for some reason I recall a very distinct memory from a science class that demonstrated that a simple 10lb bowling ball could easily generate something like 2000 lbs of force on impact if dropped on your foot. Now I also know it's not the same physics involved here but seeing how the loads can have an exponential increase based on different scenarios I can only imagine what 50lbs of weight can do while being whipped around behind the camper.[/quote]See Newton about the forces, Pythagoras about the geometry.
Yeah, but my eyes get all glossy when detailed physics get involved. Plus everything changes drastically based on the relationship of acceleration/deceleration and time. So every single bump will come out with a slightly different result.
[quote source="/post/24450/thread" timestamp="1473340897" author="@admin"]Now I don't remember the exact math but for some reason I recall a very distinct memory from a science class that demonstrated that a simple 10lb bowling ball could easily generate something like 2000 lbs of force on impact if dropped on your foot.
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In a perfect world with nice smooth roads you'd be good to go but reality is often a cruel mistress.
This is why I plan for the worst and hope I'm just being overly cautious.
Thanks Sean for adding your comments. If your going to do this please see Sean's bumper modification... http://www.livinthelitelife.com/category/diy/
Thanks for sharing this. very interesting!