Hi guys, we're looking for a LL QS camper. We are balancing between getting a used or a brand new one.
We found a 2005 QS10 and I'm wondering, if I need to change the tent or the tonneau cover, what would be the cost of replacing it.
Does someone had to change it after the warranty coverage?
How long is it supposed to last?
Thanks!
Our 2010 QS-8.1 is going into her seventh season on her original tent. We've had to replace a zipper or a zipper slider a couple of times, and had some minor repairs done when one plastic storm window started to pull away from its stitching. We had those fixes done by a tent-and-awning place, not terribly expensive and they're experts and I am not. :)
The caution is the possibility of rub holes in the tent on a used unit. No brag, just fact, we have never had a rub hole in our tent, but that it because we know how to take it down and pack it up properly. That is critical, and can be a challenge since so far as I know there is only one right way to do it, and it varies slightly from model to model, but the only video I've ever seen on the process was speeded up so it's nearly impossible to tell from the video the correct way, and it really matters.
If you are looking at a used outfit be sure to have the owners set it up and inspect the tent for rub holes. If they knew how to properly pack it there should not be any. If there are, it is because they did not know how to properly pack it. I don't think it's appropriate for me to try to explain it here now, but I can do so when/if needed. It's not difficult, but it must be done one certain way. We can raise or strike our tent in 5 minutes flat. It's just that not difficult!
If tent or tonneau need replacing they can be ordered through any dealer. I have heard prices in the neighborhood of $8-900-ish for a tent but that was a while ago.
Thanks for the info!
We finally bought the 2005 QS 10!
The tent was in pretty good shape. It will need a good cleanup but it has no holes or wear.
The only thing I'll need to do for now is change the tires.
Not because of the tread wear, they're cracked a bit.
We are pretty happy. We just have to wait for the temperature to rise a bit. At -10 Celsius this morning, it was still a little bit cold for tent camping!
I am delighted! You will love it! When you do the tires be sure to check on the bearings. The wheel bearings should be greased every 8,000 miles. We actually run our rig that far and more. In 2014 we pulled her 16,000 miles in 16 states, 30 different camps, 99 days on the road, but we are completely out of our tiny retired minds. 8D (rofl) If you have ANY questions this is the place to ask.
-10C is serious cold! My wife would freak! ??? If the seller didn't already have floor coverings down you need them as any chill comes right up through the deck. There are lots of different ways folks deal with it, including laying foam interlocking tiles. We use throw rugs but I keep thinking I ought to do the foam thing. The downside of a 100% aluminum tent trailer is whatever the ambient temp is out, it tends to be the temp in. We use an electric heater but I think better insulation on the deck couldn't hurt, but you definitely need something because most days you don't want to hit that deck in bare feet.
I think you'll love the 10.0 and with everything being so simple and repairs should be an easy fix. While we Quicksilver owners are still outnumbered by the camplite owners, there are still a ton of smart and helpful owners around here so there are plenty options to get some help if you need it :)
Chuck983, we just bought a QS10.0 used, and would be interested to learn your setup process. Thanks! Loving our tent-trailer so far. Went camping directly after purchase :) .
[quote source="/post/20485/thread" timestamp="1460461942" author="@gmcspad13"]Chuck983, we just bought a QS10.0 used, and would be interested to learn your setup process. Thanks! Loving our tent-trailer so far. Went camping directly after purchase :) . [/quote]Gee, I'm sorry, I did not see your last post a week-and-a-half ago. I just put a couple of (I hope helpful) posts in here: http://livinlite-owners.com/thread/2012/closing-tent?page=1&scrollTo=20756
Those posts cover the takedown pretty well, and I consider the takedown more important than the setup since if not done correctly it can lead to damage to the tent. Further, if the tent is taken down the right way, the setup is beyond easy. Let's see what I can list from memory. I haven't set her up since last year so I hope I don't skip a step.
[ol type="decimal"][li]Level the trailer. (Much of the time this can be done by just pushing it around the site. I use a little torpedo level on the tongue. Sometimes it's necessary to place blocks under a wheel. I find it easier to back or tow the trailer onto the blocks. I use the plastic Lego-type blocks. We like the trailer level mainly for comfort.)[/li][li]Chock the wheels[/li][li]Set the stabilizers (you can't level the trailer with these, they are only to keep the trailer from racking)[/li][li]Roll and stow the tonneau cover[/li][li]Pull out the bed braces[/li][li]Attach bed braces fore and aft. (I attach to the coach. Some folks attach to the bed frame first but I do it the way the LL video shows.)[/li][li]Open the bed frames and attach to the braces[/li][li]Flip the mattresses into the bed frames (we keep ours on top)[/li][li]Pull the tent sides out, flopped over the sides of the coach[/li][li]Make sure the Bimini bars are loose[/li][li]Grab the topmost bar as high as you can reach (for maximum leverage) plus a fistful of tent and walk it back to the open position. (I can do this alone but it's better if you and a partner work from each side.)[/li][li]Snap one or two snaps on the bed end.[/li][li]Go to the other end and repeat.[/li][li]IF YOU HAVE LEFT ALL VELCROS ATTACHED TO THE BARS AND ALL "LIFTING STRAPS" in place on the bars it will go up just that easy. Folks who tell you to unsnap the straps and release the Velcros holding the tent to the bars are defeating the purpose. It should be simple, simple, simple. Grab a bar and a handful of tent and walk it back and yo-ho and up she rises! One snap on the bed end holds it while you get the other end. Easy peasy.[/li][li]Now all you have to do is start snapping snaps. I like to work the bed ends while my wife works the sides (easier for her). I recommend THIS TOOL: http://www.amazon.com/Ironwood-Pacific-008-1-Top-Snapper-Snap/dp/B00GHU5PXO The tool saves your hands, your snaps, your canvas, and your sweet disposition. :D We have two, one for each of us. Once you learn the trick of using it you will never snap a snap by hand again.[/li][li]Our camper has Velcros and bungees on the underside of the bed frames so I do up those. They help keep bugs out.[/li][li]That's it. That has taken, from off the hitch to this point, maybe 10 minutes if you're loafing. If it happens to be raining you'd be surprised how fast you can do it to keep the mattresses dry. (rofl) [/li][li]Now it's inside, raise the kitchen, install the center brace, and whatever else needs doing. [/li][li]
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