How many people would pick this option if available?
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y483/TLBones/IMG_0458%204_zpsfqopapof.jpg"%20style=")Saw it on an ATC trailer at a show this weekend. I was VERY impressed with ATC quality.
That looks like a 2,500 watt Onan propane generator. They weigh 125 lbs. That will add at least 100 lbs to the tongue weight. And on that trailer, it doesn't look like there is room for a propane bottle in front of it.
LLs have a significantly longer front A frame and maybe both should fit ok.
We buy LLs as much for their lightness so we can tow with a medium size SUV or a small pick up, as the all aluminum/composite construction and more weight on the tongue would be a killer for my 16TBS. If you have a 21 or larger and tow with a full size pickup, then maybe the tongue weight isn't such a problem.
David
I wouldn't think of putting a generator of this size on a Camplite either....LOL. This is actually on a 8.5x28 Toyhauler so a heavy duty PU is mandatory regardless. Dry weight was 7000 lbs. I don't know what the tongue weight is. It's a 5500 watt gasoline generator that runs off the 36 gallon onboard tank that can also fuel the toys via a built in gas pump.
http://aluminumtoyhauler.com/
This was the model I saw:
http://aluminumtoyhauler.com/models.html
i like it...even a similar box to mount a portable genny in would be pretty sweet. of course i have filled my tongue with a second battery, a second propane tank, and a fuel tank (to the tune of about 192lbs of added tongue weight)...so i am not too concerned with tongue weight
After seeing this I explored the ATC site. I'm impressed. At first I wondered if there was some Scott Tuttle tie-in since products are similar. They do seem to be totally independent and are privately owned. Although their standard designs are mostly toy & car haulers, ATC appears to do lots of custom stuff -- far more than Livin'Lite ever has done. If someone was looking for something really custom they look like a good shop to handle it. I saw an article about them in their local newspaper. They pay their employees more than all the other manufacturers -- seems like significantly more.
I was blown away with the quality in person...and so was the wife... It was equal or better than any LL I have seen in person. The cabinets were very well done in aluminum and in the bedroom it had a removable nice quality burbour carpet custom cut to the exact dimensions of the floor. All other fit/finish was perfect. THe salesman gave me a funny look when I asked if it was an aluminum or membrane roof.... he said it was one piece aluminum. Floor was also aluminum similar to LL.
[quote source="/post/19280/thread" author="@tlbones" timestamp="1457352411"]I was blown away with the quality in person...and so was the wife... It was equal or better than any LL I have seen in person. The cabinets were very well done in aluminum and in the bedroom it had a removable carpet custom cut to the exact dimensions of the floor. All other fit/finish was perfect. THe salesman gave me a funny look when I asked if it was an aluminum or membrane roof.... he said it was one piece aluminum. Floor was also aluminum similar to LL. [/quote]It's difficult to get apples to apples, but I recently priced out a 7' x 20' ATC with options. Retail price not including TTL or delivery was $32,560. (Base price was $26,995.) The major options included were: 2" spray-on floor insulation, 3-season plumbing (heaters for tanks and water supply lines), 13,500 Btuh A/C, Fantastic fans with MaxxAir covers, & TV/stereo/dvd, and extra 4' aluminum upper cabinet.
Please note that the price does not include any type of beds. If I went this route, I would construct dual, twin-size Murphy beds, interior partition with door and windows at ramp opening, and collapsible railing to use the ramp as a porch.
I have no idea what actual sales price would be, but the list price seems very reasonable to me.
I sometimes daydream of getting a custom permanently frame-mounted truck camper decked out as an expedition type camper. Seems like ATC might be good folks to build it for me if I ever wake up from the daydream. In such a scenario I could have all the things I like about Camplites but incorporated into a totally custom design.
One thing I noted about ATC is they laminate adzel behind their aluminum skins much like Livin'Lite is planning to do. ATC says it makes the aluminum skins more perfectly flat --- and in their pics that does seem to show. They will do interior walls and ceilings in in aluminum, adzel or wood veneered panels. I can imagine a toy hauler having a mirror finished interior! Imagine how awesome a Ducati would look in such a jewel box, highlighted with feature lighting. One word for it: orgasmic!
I guess this could have it's own thread, but not sure what to name it....but it is pretty neat. Might work on some LL models; LP tank placement would be an issue for some. I just think it is a really neat use of space. AND it won't add much to tongue weight.
http://tab-rv.vanillaforums.com/discussion/1916/sewer-hose-storage-solution
[quote timestamp="1457373146" author="@aggie79" source="/post/19284/thread"][quote timestamp="1457352411" author="@tlbones" source="/post/19280/thread"]I was blown away with the quality in person...and so was the wife... It was equal or better than any LL I have seen in person. The cabinets were very well done in aluminum and in the bedroom it had a removable carpet custom cut to the exact dimensions of the floor. All other fit/finish was perfect. THe salesman gave me a funny look when I asked if it was an aluminum or membrane roof.... he said it was one piece aluminum. Floor was also aluminum similar to LL. [/quote]It's difficult to get apples to apples, but I recently priced out a 7' x 20' ATC with options. Retail price not including TTL or delivery was $32,560. (Base price was $26,995.) The major options included were: 2" spray-on floor insulation, 3-season plumbing (heaters for tanks and water supply lines), 13,500 Btuh A/C, Fantastic fans with MaxxAir covers, & TV/stereo/dvd, and extra 4' aluminum upper cabinet.
Please note that the price does not include any type of beds. If I went this route, I would construct dual, twin-size Murphy beds, interior partition with door and windows at ramp opening, and collapsible railing to use the ramp as a porch.
I have no idea what actual sales price would be, but the list price seems very reasonable.
[/quote]The faiirly loaded one at the show 8.5 x28 with quite few options including tip out bunk, dinette, couch, 2 TVs, 4 inch LIFT, 150 watts of Solar panels, AGM battery the generator and 36 gallon gasoline tank(sorry it wasn't 100 gallons as I thought) , AC, 3 season plumbing, and airline track, rear bug screen ($19K in accessories) was listed for $57,825 show price was $47,260 with $11,565 discount. Base price is $37,995.