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Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: hiker74 on September 30, 2015, 05:58:42 PM
We own a 2006 Quicksilver 10.0 and it has the fold down stabilizer jacks. I believe the newer ones have leveling jacks you can jack up with a bar. Can I simply order the leveling jacks and they will line up with the same two-bolt connection as the stabilizer jacks?

Are the correct leveling jacks available on the market or do I need to buy from Livin'Lite Directly?

The Stabilizer jacks don't seem to do a whole lot for "stabilizing" They mainly just prevent the teter-tottering of the unit
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: husaberger on September 30, 2015, 06:09:21 PM
chock your tires GOOD - both sides.

one way, back up on a pair of chocks then put the front ones on, so the won't roll back and forth.
THEN stabilize, etc  makes a WORLD of difference.

I do that - also add 4 more aluminum stabilizers from cameo and put em around my trailer for extra stabilizing,  it never rocks, etc:
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: shake973 on September 30, 2015, 08:29:40 PM
 I was wondering the same thing, can you put leveling jacks on a quick silver 10? The stabilizer jacks can be hard to work with.
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: hiker74 on September 30, 2015, 09:25:34 PM
Quote from: @clyde" source="/post/15661/thread" timestamp="1443647361chock your tires GOOD - both sides.

one way, back up on a pair of chocks then put the front ones on, so the won't roll back and forth.
THEN stabilize, etc  makes a WORLD of difference.

I do that - also add 4 more aluminum stabilizers from cameo and put em around my trailer for extra stabilizing,  it never rocks, etc:



Clyde- I'm not sure that's Standard Operating Procedure. I have to say you are resourceful though :)
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: pinstriper on September 30, 2015, 11:58:00 PM
[quote source="/post/15671/thread" timestamp="1443659134" author="@hiker74"][quote source="/post/15661/thread" timestamp="1443647361" author="@clyde"]chock your tires GOOD - both sides.

one way, back up on a pair of chocks then put the front ones on, so the won't roll back and forth.
THEN stabilize, etc  makes a WORLD of difference.

I do that - also add 4 more aluminum stabilizers from cameo and put em around my trailer for extra stabilizing,  it never rocks, etc:[/quote]
Clyde- I'm not sure that's Standard Operating Procedure. I have to say you are resourceful though :)[/quote][p]Actually, that sounds pretty close to right. If you are not level side-to-side, you drive up onto blocks or pads under the low side. Chocks could do the job for very small amount of leveling. Once level, you drop the stab jacks to maintain position.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Far more sensible than thinking that replacing a stabilization jack with a stronger jack will do anything other than make sure the failure point is the frame, instead of the jack, when trying to use that setup for leveling instead of stabilizing.[/p][p]
[/p][p]It's not about the jack, it's about the attachment point to the frame, which is not designed to bear the load. at the point where the stabilization jack is mounted.[/p][p]
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Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: hiker74 on October 01, 2015, 01:08:43 AM
Isn't there a tool to advance a stabilizer jack another slot?
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: pinstriper on October 01, 2015, 12:09:15 PM
[quote source="/post/15682/thread" timestamp="1443672523" author="@hiker74"]Isn't there a tool to advance a stabilizer jack another slot?[/quote]Not following you. But how would making the jack longer do anything to make the frame stronger ?
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: hiker74 on October 01, 2015, 12:34:10 PM
Not trying to make the frame stronger or even level the camper. I'm just trying to get the jacks to go to the actual ground to be stable and have the camper be solidly placed at the campsite instead of rocking around
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: jwesty on October 01, 2015, 02:09:24 PM
[quote source="/post/15660/thread" author="@hiker74" timestamp="1443646722"]We own a 2006 Quicksilver 10.0 and it has the fold down stabilizer jacks. I believe the newer ones have leveling jacks you can jack up with a bar. Can I simply order the leveling jacks and they will line up with the same two-bolt connection as the stabilizer jacks?

Are the correct leveling jacks available on the market or do I need to buy from Livin'Lite Directly?

The Stabilizer jacks don't seem to do a whole lot for "stabilizing" They mainly just prevent the teter-tottering of the unit[/quote]Hmmm, so in 2006, they didn't have a mechanism to use a rod to put a slight load on the flip down stabilizer jacks?

I recently replaced my rusty stock ones with zinc plated ones that also use a rod. The bolt pattern (and in fact the whole jack) was the same as my 2009:

[a href="http://livinliteforum.com/index.php/topic=23.0.html"]http://livinliteforum.com/index.php/topic=23.0.html[/a]

It also helps to pull the jack outboard as you load it up with the rod so you get the widest footprint.

... and I also use wheel chocks.
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: hiker74 on October 01, 2015, 02:33:50 PM
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Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: husaberger on October 01, 2015, 03:45:54 PM
yes you should have a 12 - 14 inch long steel rod, use that to crank it down 'one more' after firmly on ground

similar to this one in the video  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBVvSc1ruV4


about 33 second mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBVvSc1ruV4
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: jwesty on October 02, 2015, 12:01:23 PM
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Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: pinstriper on October 02, 2015, 12:42:33 PM
[quote source="/post/15690/thread" timestamp="1443713650" author="@hiker74"]Not trying to make the frame stronger or even level the camper. I'm just trying to get the jacks to go to the actual ground to be stable and have the camper be solidly placed at the campsite instead of rocking around[/quote][p]So, you just want them to extend further, or be more adjustable ? I guess I was thrown off the trail by your use of the term "leveling jacks".[/p][p]
[/p][p]Seems like you could find a set of scissors-style stabilizing jacks over at [a href="http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Ultra-Fab-Products/UF48-979031.html"]e-trailer [/a]or [a href="http://www.amazon.com/BAL-23025-Stabilizing-Jacks-Trailer/dp/B000GGMSQM/ref=sr_1_7?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1443800460&sr=1-7&keywords=stabilizer+jack"]amazon[/a], and put them in the same place as your old jacks. I don't know what the hole pattern is on the old ones (take the old ones off to find out for sure), you'd want that to be compatible so you aren't drilling more holes unless absolutely necessary. A dealer would be able to handle that straight away if you don't want to mess with it.[/p][p]
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Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: aznighthiker on October 07, 2015, 01:58:28 PM
We have been using the stock fold down jacks for stabilizing the camper. If needed we have used the all aluminum screw jacks if the fold down jacks are not long enough. We also have a Bal leveler that mounts to the tire to level the camper on its short axis, however we only had to use it once. The stabilizing jacks are used for stabilizing not leveling, choose you camp site camper deployment site correctly  and you may not have a problem or need to level. If you are at a Camper show make sure the rear stabilizer jacks have been deployed, if not the camper may pop a wheelie when you are inside the camper.
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: ryanincc on October 08, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: @hiker74" source="/post/15660/thread" timestamp="1443646722We own a 2006 Quicksilver 10.0 and it has the fold down stabilizer jacks. I believe the newer ones have leveling jacks you can jack up with a bar. Can I simply order the leveling jacks and they will line up with the same two-bolt connection as the stabilizer jacks?

Are the correct leveling jacks available on the market or do I need to buy from Livin'Lite Directly?

The Stabilizer jacks don't seem to do a whole lot for "stabilizing" They mainly just prevent the teter-tottering of the unit



Just to cover the bases, no leveling should be done at the corners. I don't think you meant that but be careful with the phrase "leveling jacks". They call them stabilizers for a reason :-)

I'm my experience, if you really want to be in Stability City, get yourself a BAL Leveler and a BAL Single Axle Chock and always use them both, even when you are level. With your factory stabs, they work better, BY FAR, than any other chock, block or method, like Andersen Levelers. It doesnt matter how hard you hammer your chocks into your tires... The BALs work better.
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: hiker74 on October 08, 2015, 12:43:46 PM
Yep guys I was mistakenly calling them leveling. I believe i'm just missing the bar to extend them down to make them more solid to stabilize the camper
Title: Replacing Stabilizer Jacks w/ Leveling Jacks-Quicksilver 10
Post by: aznighthiker on October 08, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
If you obtain a Bal-Leveler use an insulated pizza delivery bag to store and transport.