Can anyone tell me the weight limit for a rear deck on a 10.0 quicksilver? I was thinking of putting my kid's bikes on it. If so, can anyone suggest how I can secure them to the deck for traveling? Thanks Sal M.
Kids bikes will be fine. There is a thread in the upgrade section of how people installed multi-point track systems on the rear deck. I found a good setup on Amazon for $60, which I'm about to order. It is a necessity.
Quote from: @sal526" source="/post/15443/thread" timestamp="1442945385Can anyone tell me the weight limit for a rear deck on a 10.0 quicksilver? I was thinking of putting my kid's bikes on it. If so, can anyone suggest how I can secure them to the deck for traveling? Thanks Sal M.
How many bikes? And what size?
My coolers weigh an easy 100 lbs. I weigh 200 lbs and I stand on it without any fears (stabilizers down of course ;) )
[quote source="/post/15448/thread" timestamp="1442962006" author="@nwoflatlander"]Kids bikes will be fine. There is a thread in the upgrade section of how people installed multi-point track systems on the rear deck. I found a good setup on Amazon for $60, which I'm about to order. It is a necessity. [/quote]Great I'll look into it Thanks Sal M.
[quote source="/post/15450/thread" timestamp="1442963097" author="@jwesty"][quote source="/post/15443/thread" timestamp="1442945385" author="@sal526"]Can anyone tell me the weight limit for a rear deck on a 10.0 quicksilver? I was thinking of putting my kid's bikes on it. If so, can anyone suggest how I can secure them to the deck for traveling? Thanks Sal M.[/quote]
How many bikes? And what size?[/quote]Two 24" Bikes no more than 80 lbs combine?
If its a factory installed deck then it should be a continuation of the trailer frame. I dont recall the specs off the top of my head but it should easily hold 200-300 pounds.
You should be able to have an entire family's worth of bikes on there without any trouble.
[quote source="/post/15461/thread" timestamp="1442974479" author="@sal526"][quote source="/post/15450/thread" timestamp="1442963097" author="@jwesty"]How many bikes? And what size?[/quote]Two 24" Bikes no more than 80 lbs combine?[/quote]Weight isn't an issue regardless of the bike...
And two bikes is way easier to deal with than four, so
Not sure how much you want to spend, but you could do anything from
- Lashing them down with ropes and straps (perhaps to a track system as posted above, or L-track pucks like I've mounted), to
- bolting down a couple fork mounts like these and stowing the front wheels somewhere, to
[a href="http://www.rockymounts.com/truck_bike_racks_s/118.htm"][span] [/span][span] [/span]http://www.rockymounts.com/truck_bike_racks_s/118.htm[/a]
- mounting some deluxe bike rack trays like these from 1upusa (awesome by the way)
[a href="http://1upusa.com/product-rooftray.html"][span] [/span][span] [/span]http://1upusa.com/product-rooftray.html[/a]
My recommendation would be to use some kind of legit bike tray that let's you leave the wheels on, and loads and unloads quickly. Craigslist is always a good place to look. Maybe look for a 2-bike add-on that would otherwise turn a 2-bike hitch rack into a 4-bike unit, and mount that to your deck.
Example: [a href="https://www.cracksandracks.com/thule-918xtr-t2-2-bike-add-on.html?___SID=U"]https://www.cracksandracks.com/thule-918xtr-t2-2-bike-add-on.html?___SID=U[/a]
Assuming you bolt something to the deck, I would also make up some aluminum plates/strips to sandwich the decking. The decking is pretty thin.
Good luck!
[quote timestamp="1443015515" author="@jwesty" source="/post/15469/thread"][quote source="/post/15461/thread" author="@sal526" timestamp="1442974479"]Two 24" Bikes no more than 80 lbs combine?[/quote]Weight isn't an issue regardless of the bike...
And two bikes is way easier to deal with than four, so
Not sure how much you want to spend, but you could do anything from
- Lashing them down with ropes and straps (perhaps to a track system as posted above, or L-track pucks like I've mounted), to
- bolting down a couple fork mounts like these and stowing the front wheels somewhere, to
[a href="http://www.rockymounts.com/truck_bike_racks_s/118.htm"][span] [/span][span] [/span]http://www.rockymounts.com/truck_bike_racks_s/118.htm[/a]
- mounting some deluxe bike rack trays like these from 1upusa (awesome by the way)
[a href="http://1upusa.com/product-rooftray.html"][span] [/span][span] [/span]http://1upusa.com/product-rooftray.html[/a]
My recommendation would be to use some kind of legit bike tray that let's you leave the wheels on, and loads and unloads quickly. Craigslist is always a good place to look. Maybe look for a 2-bike add-on that would otherwise turn a 2-bike hitch rack into a 4-bike unit, and mount that to your deck.
Example: [a href="https://www.cracksandracks.com/thule-918xtr-t2-2-bike-add-on.html?___SID=U"]https://www.cracksandracks.com/thule-918xtr-t2-2-bike-add-on.html?___SID=U[/a]
Assuming you bolt something to the deck, I would also make up some aluminum plates/strips to sandwich the decking. The decking is pretty thin.
Good luck!
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Let,s try this again - We have mounted 2 racks on the back deck of our 8.1 QS for the transportation of our mountain bikes. Adds a total weight to the rear of the trailer of approximately 80 lbs, well within the weight limits of the rear deck. At first we had thought of fork mount bike racks but found that with the front wheels removed the handle bars of one bike would hit the top of the trailer - you would have to raise the bike rack approximately 4 to 6 inches off the deck to make that type of rack work. We opted for the type of rack which would allow the front wheel to remain on the bikes. Purchased 2 Sportsrack bike racks from Amazon, (Sportsrack is a division of Thule) - not the most expensive but has the same basic technology used on Thule's more expensive racks. When installing I used 1" thick UHMW blocks to keep the steel frame of the rack from touching the aluminum decking. Stainless steel bolts were used and, since the decking is 1) pretty thin and 2) ribbed on the bottom side, aluminum reinforcement plates were used to add strength to the deck. Bikes were placed facing opposite directions so that the handlebars would not interfere with each other when loaded onto the racks.
[quote source="/post/15513/thread" timestamp="1443283721" author="@dana"]...At first we had thought of fork mount bike racks but found that with the front wheels removed the handle bars of one bike would hit the top of the trailer - you would have to raise the bike rack approximately 4 to 6 inches off the deck to make that type of rack work.
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Good point. You could always loosen the bike stem and swing the handlebars sideways, but
I agree a bike tray that keeps the front wheel on would be the slickest.
Picts please!
[quote source="/post/15513/thread" timestamp="1443283721" author="@dana"]Let,s try this again - We have mounted 2 racks on the back deck of our 8.1 QS for the transportation of our mountain bikes. Adds a total weight to the rear of the trailer of approximately 80 lbs, well within the weight limits of the rear deck. At first we had thought of fork mount bike racks but found that with the front wheels removed the handle bars of one bike would hit the top of the trailer - you would have to raise the bike rack approximately 4 to 6 inches off the deck to make that type of rack work. We opted for the type of rack which would allow the front wheel to remain on the bikes. Purchased 2 Sportsrack bike racks from Amazon, (Sportsrack is a division of Thule) - not the most expensive but has the same basic technology used on Thule's more expensive racks. When installing I used 1" thick UHMW blocks to keep the steel frame of the rack from touching the aluminum decking. Stainless steel bolts were used and, since the decking is 1) pretty thin and 2) ribbed on the bottom side, aluminum reinforcement plates were used to add strength to the deck. Bikes were placed facing opposite directions so that the handlebars would not interfere with each other when loaded onto the racks.
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We have not set up an outside image server for pictures to post on the proboard. I will email pictures to you of the racks on the trailer - if you want to post them you have my permission.
Posting these with permission from Steve & Dana - this is an excellent setup!
[a href="https://flic.kr/p/z1mAhT"]
[img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5632/21663790939_f2a1633820_h.jpg"][/a][a href="https://flic.kr/p/z1mAhT"]Rear deck bike mounts by Steve and Dana[/a]
[a href="https://flic.kr/p/ykZfJ8"]
[img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5623/21229600923_fd6634a9d9_h.jpg"][/a][a href="https://flic.kr/p/ykZfJ8"]Rear deck bike mounts by Steve and Dana[/a]
[a href="https://flic.kr/p/z1mzvn"]
[img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/572/21663788299_f3682bce38_h.jpg"][/a][a href="https://flic.kr/p/z1mzvn"]Rear deck bike mounts by Steve and Dana[/a]
[a href="https://flic.kr/p/zfynvE"]
[img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5819/21824520236_bc02d8f56e_h.jpg"][/a][a href="https://flic.kr/p/zfynvE"]Rear deck bike mounts by Steve and Dana[/a]
Thanks Subaruwx, we were on the road when these pictures were taken. We were at our daughter and son in laws house in White Salmon Washington, just across the Columbia River from Hood River Oregon.
[quote timestamp="1443913525" author="@dana" source="/post/15740/thread"]Thanks Subaruwx, we were on the road when these pictures were taken. We were at our daughter and son in laws house in White Salmon Washington, just across the Columbia River from Hood River Oregon. [/quote]This might be a silly question, but where can I order those bike racks? I have been googling bike racks all day and can't find any that look like what you have. We have the 10.0 and would love for the bikes to ride on the back deck!
Also, do you think there is enough room to fit three bikes on there without them scratching the back of the camper?
Thanks!
[quote timestamp="1465521326" source="/post/22044/thread" author="@knc1014"]
Quote from: @dana" source="/post/15740/thread" timestamp="1443913525Thanks Subaruwx, we were on the road when these pictures were taken. We were at our daughter and son in laws house in White Salmon Washington, just across the Columbia River from Hood River Oregon.
This might be a silly question, but where can I order those bike racks? I have been googling bike racks all day and can't find any that look like what you have. We have the 10.0 and would love for the bikes to ride on the back deck!
Also, do you think there is enough room to fit three bikes on there without them scratching the back of the camper?
Thanks![/quote]What Subaruwx images show is two of these: [a href="http://www.sportrack.com/p/upshift?pp=24"]>> SportRack 'UPSHIFT' roof-top bicycle carriers. <<[/a]
I bought these from amazon as the pricing was better than going directly to Sports Rack which is a low cost division of Thule. Had originally wanted to put "front wheel off" racks on the rear deck which lead to a couple of issues - 1) where to put the front wheels of each bike and 2) the handle bar of the bike right next to the trailer would hit the top of the trailer. These are actually designed to go on to a car roof rack. I decided to put these on the rear deck of the trailer so that the bikes would be easier to load but the one draw back is that if you are in transit to a specific location and you camp for one night at a couple of different locations, you have to unload the bikes prior to setting up the trailer.
https://www.amazon.com/SportRack-SR4883-Upshift-Upright-Carrier/dp/B00R6SCUU2/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1465554985&sr=8-22&keywords=bicycle+roof+rack
I'm not sure if 3 bikes would fit on the back deck of your trailer. The only way that you would know would know would be to actually put the bikes on the back deck of the trailer and do some measuring. Of course there would be things that would need to be done to the bikes to make the fit right. Pedals may need to be removed and handlebars would need to be turned parallel to the bike frames. For us, when the bikes are mounted on the trailer, I removed the inboard pedal on the bike next to the trailer to prevent scratching of the paint.
Thanks! Not sure what we will end up doing. Right now we put the bikes in the back of the truck but then struggle to tie everything else down securely on the deck of camper. I'd rather it be the other way around. It would end up putting the weight in my truck instead of on the deck. We have had our camper for almost a year now and have only made local camping trips so far. But we are getting ready to take it 650 miles out for the first time so we are having to take more with us too and I have a small truck bed. Nissan Frontier Pro 4X.
Understand fully the small pickup and long trip scenario. We have a Toyota Tacoma 4X with the five foot bed and when taking long trips packing can be challenging to say the least. Below is another option for mounting a bike rack onto the rear deck of your trailer.
http://livinlite-owners.com/thread/322/rear-deck-mods?page=2
Receiver that is bolted onto and through the deck can be purchased from amazon or etrailer.
https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-RV-2-Bumper-Adaptor/dp/B00174ZHGU/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1465569007&sr=8-4&keywords=bolt+on+receiver+hitch
Once this is installed you would need to purchase a rack such as this:
https://www.amazon.com/Stoneman-Sports-VR-701-Sparehand-Vehicles/dp/B0072JDBDU/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1465568836&sr=8-8&keywords=hitch+style+3+bike+rack
https://www.amazon.com/Yakima-8002471-Products-LiteRider-3/dp/B0171A6MRQ/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1465568933&sr=8-9&keywords=hitch+style+3+bike+rack
There are multiple ways to transport bikes, just need to think about what you really want to do (for us it was wheel on, not in the back of the truck and not on the roof) and then look for ways to do it. Hope this helps in deciding exactly what you want and good luck on getting whatever you decide installed. Have a great, safe trip.
Steve & Dana
Forgot to tell you, look for the post by zasseg for the pictures of the receiver onto the rear deck of your trailer
If you have a Norther Tool near by, they often sell a bike rack that fits in a 2" receiver and can store up to 4 bikes securely. Right now its 39 bucks: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200622240_200622240
I'm a huge fan to the 2" receiver if at all possible, but thats because I like the flexibility it provides. If I'm investing in a bike rack why not get one that can be used with or without the camper...
Thanks for all of your input! I think we will take a ride to Northern Tool. They have the hitch mount there too on sale. ????
This is what Northern Tool has to offer in the way of receivers. You will still need to have a bottom plate and the center support bar
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200612507_200612507
[font size="3"]This Swagman reciever might help. All plates and bolts included and has an anti-rattle bolt.
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Here's yet another option I've used. This will either fasten to crossbars or bolt down to a platform. When bolting to a platform, you need small spacers to make it easier to use the wheel cinch straps. Pricey for multiple bikes because it's one bike per rack!
https://www.amazon.com/Yakima-Raptor-Aero-Rooftop-Bike/dp/B000WXFF6E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465610573&sr=8-1&keywords=raptoraero
That is a great system. If you don't mind, I think that I'll just take your lead and do this on my 8.0. I have a couple of questions as I'm not sure of the materials you spoke of. 1) What is the 1" thick UHMW you mentioned? It looks like a dense plastic, but not sure. 2) Did you place the aluminum plate underneath, bolting it in with the S/S fasteners you used? I also like that you placed an eye bolt for the lock. Nicely done.
Thanks, I'm glad that you liked it.
The thick UHMW is actually a type of polyethylene plastic sheet that I got from work (excess scrap) and can be purchased from McMaster Carr as well as the aluminum plate.
1) I spent considerable time looking at different attachment methods, "wheel off" vs "wheel on" mounting of the bikes and the actual placement of the bikes. With "wheel off" mounting the handle bar of the inboard bike needed to be turned 90 degrees so as not to hit the top of the trailer. The "wheel on" method made more sense to me - made it easier when opening the trailer to already have the wheel on the bikes plus I did not have to figure out where to store a wheel when traveling.
2) I cut the UHMW to size for the portion under each area of the steel rack that I needed to keep off the aluminum decking.
3) I drilled the holes through the UHMW,
4) then cut 4 small plates from aluminum stock and drilled those to match the UHMW and the rack itself.
5) I drilled the holes in the rear deck to match the rack, UHMW and the aluminum plates.
One caution - the under side of the rear decking is ribbed so if you are not careful and precise in drilling you could be drilling through the center of a rib which could make a misalignment for the bolt.
6) I placed everything (rack and UHMW) onto the deck of the trailer over the hole drilled in the deck, inserted the SS bolts and then got under the trailer, placed the aluminum plate in place as a support, applied lock washers and nylock nuts. I did add an eyebolt to the decking so as to be able to lock the bikes onto the trailer.
Steve