Just wondering has anyone has a flat on their unit. I do have a jack and a spare but I also have on my insurance they will come out and change it if I have one. I hope I never do. I just wonder if it would be a major deal to change.
Here is the best trick for changing tires on Quicksilver. Lower the back stabilizers, then use the tongue jack to raise the front until the wheels come off the ground. No extra jack needed.
Can't take credit for this, I learned it from someone on this site.
[quote timestamp="1441914928" author="@kybrowns" source="/post/15111/thread"]Here is the best trick for changing tires on Quicksilver. Lower the back stabilizers, then use the tongue jack to raise the front until the wheels come off the ground. No extra jack needed.
Can't take credit for this, I learned it from someone on this site. [/quote]
Although that might work in a pinch, it's not designed to be lifted that way. The stabilizers aren't rated for it and the way LL attaches them definitely isn't. The stabilizers are not directly attached to the frame, so you're essentially lifting the trailer using the floor.
Man, that sounded like a great idea too.
I don't extent they stabilizers when I do this. So there isn't anything to break. Plus, on my 10.0 the stabilizers are connected to a good size beam, not the main pair running down the middle, but pretty good size. I doubt they will bend and push the floor up. I stored my 10.0 this way to keep weight off wheels and the water to run off nicely. To be safe I'll lower the tongue some to take some pressure off.
Thanks
I had a an old tire let go of a part of the tread from a tire. No damage to the 10.0. Didn't even know about the loss till we slowed down for construction north of Waco Texas. Used the jack from my Grand Marquis. Prob a 10 min stop. (Any car or suv jack would work) Just check yalls spares to make sure they are aired up! Carry and air compressor! Harbor freight has a good one. http://m.harborfreight.com/12v-100-psi-high-volume-air-compressor-69284.html Saved me more than once!
[quote source="/post/15126/thread" timestamp="1441928584" author="@kybrowns"]I don't extent they stabilizers when I do this. So there isn't anything to break. Plus, on my 10.0 the stabilizers are connected to a good size beam, not the main pair running down the middle, but pretty good size. I doubt they will bend and push the floor up. I stored my 10.0 this way to keep weight off wheels and the water to run off nicely. To be safe I'll lower the tongue some to take some pressure off.
Thanks [/quote]I agree. I see no difference with this and when I level the trailer and then we have 500 lbs of people inside on the other side of the axle.
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When I recently replaced the tires on my 6.0, I lifted it on the stabilizer jacks and removed the tires entirely. It was like that for several days. No problems.
These campers weigh so little that the four stabilizer jacks will safely support the camper. I don't recall the weight capacity of the stabilizer jacks, but I recall that the rated capacity of one jack will support the entire weight of my 6.0 if I could balance it on just one. They are attached to brackets that are quite strong enough to carry 25% of the weight of these campers. Even with a 10.0, it's less than 400 pounds per stabilizer jack.
[quote source="/post/15258/thread" timestamp="1442369249" author="@stevesanders"]When I recently replaced the tires on my 6.0, I lifted it on the stabilizer jacks and removed the tires entirely. It was like that for several days. No problems.
These campers weigh so little that the four stabilizer jacks will safely support the camper. I don't recall the weight capacity of the stabilizer jacks, but I recall that the rated capacity of one jack will support the entire weight of my 6.0 if I could balance it on just one. They are attached to brackets that are quite strong enough to carry 25% of the weight of these campers. Even with a 10.0, it's less than 400 pounds per stabilizer jack.[/quote][p]It has less to do with the strength of the jacks and more to do with the strength of where they are mounted. Typically not mounted to the weight bearing frame of the trailer.[/p][p]
[/p][p]That said, with a popup you can pretty safely do this without issue. The problem comes when someone comes along with a box trailer and thinks stabilizer = leveler = can lift the trailer weight, which they should not.
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[quote timestamp="1442544748" source="/post/15326/thread" author="@pinstriper"][quote source="/post/15258/thread" timestamp="1442369249" author="@stevesanders"]When I recently replaced the tires on my 6.0, I lifted it on the stabilizer jacks and removed the tires entirely. It was like that for several days. No problems.
These campers weigh so little that the four stabilizer jacks will safely support the camper. I don't recall the weight capacity of the stabilizer jacks, but I recall that the rated capacity of one jack will support the entire weight of my 6.0 if I could balance it on just one. They are attached to brackets that are quite strong enough to carry 25% of the weight of these campers. Even with a 10.0, it's less than 400 pounds per stabilizer jack.[/quote][p]It has less to do with the strength of the jacks and more to do with the strength of where they are mounted. Typically not mounted to the weight bearing frame of the trailer.[/p][p]
[/p][p]That said, with a popup you can pretty safely do this without issue. The problem comes when someone comes along with a box trailer and thinks stabilizer = leveler = can lift the trailer weight, which they should not.
[/p][/quote]I don't understand your point. This thread is about Quicksilver campers, not typical box trailers. Since these campers are built strong enough to use the stabilizer jacks in what my be an atypical manner, why treat it like it's as poorly constructed as other products?
I confirmed that the frames of these trailers are quite strong. For about four years, I stored my QS 6.0 by hanging it from the ceiling in my basement of my last house and parked my car under it. I had a doubled 2X4 beam that went below the back wall, against the mounts for the stabilizer jacks. The weight was supported with three suport cables, one on each end of the beam and one around the tongue of the trailer where the coupler attaches. I don't load the camper very heavy, but after a while I didn't bother to empty it before hanging it up. At first I was concerned about the stress on the tongue, but it's as straight as it ever was. These campers are built stronger than they need to be.
I dont know why this surprised me as much as it did but it never even crossed to store the camper by suspending it from the ceiling.
Though I guess at less than 800 pounds its a completely feasible idea. Heck, as I think about it, I would do it just to say I could :)
Quote from: @stevesanders" source="/post/15327/thread" timestamp="1442548856[quote timestamp="1442544748" source="/post/15326/thread" author="@pinstriper"][p]It has less to do with the strength of the jacks and more to do with the strength of where they are mounted. Typically not mounted to the weight bearing frame of the trailer.[/p][p]
[/p][p]That said, with a popup you can pretty safely do this without issue. The problem comes when someone comes along with a box trailer and thinks stabilizer = leveler = can lift the trailer weight, which they should not.
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I don't understand your point. This thread is about Quicksilver campers, not typical box trailers. Since these campers are built strong enough to use the stabilizer jacks in what my be an atypical manner, why treat it like it's as poorly constructed as other products?
I confirmed that the frames of these trailers are quite strong. For about four years, I stored my QS 6.0 by hanging it from the ceiling in my basement of my last house and parked my car under it. I had a doubled 2X4 beam that went below the back wall, against the mounts for the stabilizer jacks. The weight was supported with three suport cables, one on each end of the beam and one around the tongue of the trailer where the coupler attaches. I don't load the camper very heavy, but after a while I didn't bother to empty it before hanging it up. At first I was concerned about the stress on the tongue, but it's as straight as it ever was. These campers are built stronger than they need to be.[/quote][p]1. There are enough folks out there who have tried this with a box trailer that I thought it might be a good idea to distinguish between something you can more than likely get away with on a popup due to its light weight versus something that would be a terrible idea in another trailer. Thee poor newb that comes along and sees this and tries it with their trailer is the person I have in mind.[/p][p]
[/p][p]2. I don't think it is fair to characterize the box trailer as poorly constructed, when the issue is really weight. Rather than "atypical" I would say more like "in a way not designed", so anyone doing this should not be surprised if someday something fails and then complain about poor construction.[/p][p]
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