Picking up our 21BHS!

[tinkeringtechie]

Sounds like the trailer is working correctly then. Let us know what you find on the outlet side. I guess the good news is you don't have to drive 160 miles...

[fasteddieb]

What threw me the first time is that the little checker gives the right indications:






I did this so long ago, I don't remember my logic, but this is the back of the outlet - the power is coming in from the pump controller via the green and red wires on the left, the single black wire running from the case runs to a ground post in the ground:






Here's where they wire into the pressure controller:






The red and green to the outlet run off to the left, power from the house comes in from the right, and the grey cable lower left runs to the well pump.

It seems like if I did have anything reversed, it would show on the tester.

[charliem]

[font size="3"][font face="arial"]I can't tell exactly what's going on from your pictures, but I see some things I really don't like. The second picture shows a red and white wire connected, normally a no-no. Also a green and black connected, really a no-no. Normally green is reserved for ground, white is neutral, and hot is some other color like black, red, or blue. You really need to re-look the entire setup with your engineer friend and a voltmeter. There is a way, with the incoming hot and neutral reversed and the socked ground connected to the incoming hot, for the little tester to show good and the ground pin to be at 120VAC. I think this is possible by just reversing the incoming power line and not providing a good and separate safety ground connection from the house line to the trailer socket. Some older pump installations were 240V and no safety ground was carried through. BE VERY CAREFUL. THIS IS DANGEROUS. We need to keep all our Camplite owners   B-|.  With the trailer neutral and frame isolated everything will appear normal except the trailer will be 120 volts above ground. And if the trailer is really hot, disregard my suggestion of spraying water on the roof.
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[fasteddieb]

I appreciate the concern. It was jury-rigged in steps, and everything seemed logical at the time and seemed to work.

I think the issue has to be the outlet, since plugged into our hot tub's aux outlets (also GFCI) or the house using the same extension cords and adapter both work fine with no voltage from frame to ground stake and no tripping of the GFCI so far.

But for the life of me I can't see how the ground wire is being charged, in order to pass that current through to the trailer frame.

On the GFCI outlet, Hot and Neutral attach to the side terminals. Ground to a lug on the bottom. I have the ground running to a screw on the metal outlet box, then to a ground bus in the pump disconnect box, then another wire running from that bus to a ground stake. Nowhere is there a path for current to flow into the ground, that I can see.

Yet that seems to be what is happening.

Weird.

When my friend has time I will have him go over my Rube Goldberg setup and try to see where the problem lies. and probably try to color code properly.

Thanks again for your concern and patience.

[charliem]

[font size="3"][font face="arial"]Sounds like a plan. Just hook to the hot tub or house until you find the problem. When your friend comes over offer a 6-pack on non alcoholic beer and go to it. After the problem is fixed, break out the Georgia Moonshine.
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[fasteddieb]

So far, so good...

...hooked up to the GFCI hot tub outlet, no faults in spite of several heavy rains.

Have not had time to troubleshoot/repair/rewire the pump house outlet, but its off limits until I do.

I ordered a Valterra 64" hose carrier from Amazon to replace the much shorter one Livin Lite supplied. Fit right into the same slot:






Its to hold the 15' RhinoFlex hose we got, also from Amazon.

I'm considering mounting the shorter carrier and hose on the other side. 15' should be enough most of the time, but when we camped at Hiawassee, some of the sites had fairly long distances to the sewer hookup, so a bit extra hose for those times might come in handy.

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/1450/thread" timestamp="1402485989" author="@fasteddieb"]So far, so good...

...hooked up to the GFCI hot tub outlet, no faults in spite of several heavy rains.

Have not had time to troubleshoot/repair/rewire the pump house outlet, but its off limits until I do.

I ordered a Valterra 64" hose carrier from Amazon to replace the much shorter one Livin Lite supplied. Fit right into the same slot:

Its to hold the 15' RhinoFlex hose we got, also from Amazon.

I'm considering mounting the shorter carrier and hose on the other side. 15' should be enough most of the time, but when we camped at Hiawassee, some of the sites had fairly long distances to the sewer hookup, so a bit extra hose for those times might come in handy.[/quote][font size="3"][font face="arial"]Glad you're progressing. I take it you checked and no hot camper chassis when using the hot tub outlet. The OEM hose carrier may hold the 5' Rhino extension, but not the 10' version. I've got the 10' stored in the truck bed for now. Figured if the 15' wouldn't reach I'd probably need the 10' extension. Can't hurt. More is better??[/font][/font]

[djsamuel]

[quote source="/post/1450/thread" timestamp="1402485989" author="@fasteddieb"]



So far, so good...

...hooked up to the GFCI hot tub outlet, no faults in spite of several heavy rains.

Have not had time to troubleshoot/repair/rewire the pump house outlet, but its off limits until I do.

I ordered a Valterra 64" hose carrier from Amazon to replace the much shorter one Livin Lite supplied. Fit right into the same slot:



[/quote]Great minds think alike!  That's exactly where I mounted my 64" hose carrier to replace the short one.  That could be a picture of my camper.  No difference.

Please be sure to let us know what you find with your outlet.  It's got me curious.

Doug

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1450/thread" timestamp="1402485989" author="@fasteddieb"]Its to hold the 15' RhinoFlex hose we got, also from Amazon.[/quote]

Have you tried installing the hose yet? Because we initially purchased the same carrier and found that it actually didn't fit. You'd think that the most popular hose and the most popular hose carrier on amazon would be compatible, but they weren't. The hose could fit with modifications (trim some of the lugs), but the sewer adapter didn't fit at all. Had to return it for the D&W super tube. The 60" super tube also happened to line up with the floor joists.

[fasteddieb]

I was prepared to shave down some lugs to get it to fit, but it slid right in - with everything but the orange "cone adapter".

This is the one we got:



Interestingly, it shows as $17 online, but was about $7 in the store - I would not have paid $17 for it and would have opted for RhinoFlex connectors instead. Still may.

[shovelhead]

[quote source="/post/1455/thread" timestamp="1402492200" author="@tinkeringtechie"][quote source="/post/1450/thread" timestamp="1402485989" author="@fasteddieb"]Its to hold the 15' RhinoFlex hose we got, also from Amazon.[/quote]Have you tried installing the hose yet? Because we initially purchased the same carrier and found that it actually didn't fit. You'd think that the most popular hose and the most popular hose carrier on amazon would be compatible, but they weren't. The hose could fit with modifications (trim some of the lugs), but the sewer adapter didn't fit at all. Had to return it for the D&W super tube. The 60" super tube also happened to line up with the floor joists.
[/quote]What is the D&W Super Tube and where did you buy it?    I did an Amazon search but found nada  Thanks

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1463/thread" timestamp="1402499309" author="@fasteddieb"]I was prepared to shave down some lugs to get it to fit, but it slid right in - with everything but the orange "cone adapter".[/quote]
So where are you going to put the adapter? When that didn't fit, it was a dealbreaker for me. If I'm going to store poopy parts in a box somewhere in my rig I might as well just put the hose there as well. No reason to have multiple poopy storage areas.

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/1464/thread" timestamp="1402505329" author="@shovelhead"][quote source="/post/1455/thread" timestamp="1402492200" author="@tinkeringtechie"]Have you tried installing the hose yet? Because we initially purchased the same carrier and found that it actually didn't fit. You'd think that the most popular hose and the most popular hose carrier on amazon would be compatible, but they weren't. The hose could fit with modifications (trim some of the lugs), but the sewer adapter didn't fit at all. Had to return it for the D&W super tube. The 60" super tube also happened to line up with the floor joists.
[/quote]What is the D&W Super Tube and where did you buy it?    I did an Amazon search but found nada  Thanks[/quote]Here's the super-tube:

[a href="http://www.dwincorp.com/products/82/SUPER-TUBE"]http://www.dwincorp.com/products/82/SUPER-TUBE[/a]

The 60" version fits perfectly where Eddie put his carrier. The mounting holes also line up with the floor joists, so it attaches very securely. They have a new adjustable one that just came out:

[a href="http://www.dwincorp.com/products/125/NEW-SUPER-SLIDER-Adjustable-SUPER-TUBE"]http://www.dwincorp.com/products/125/NEW-SUPER-SLIDER-Adjustable-SUPER-TUBE[/a]

I haven't seen it myself though, so I'm not sure if it's as sturdy as the original.

[fasteddieb]

We were invited to go camping last Thurs/Fri by some friends who had just bought a travel trailer and wanted to try it out. Chose a place pretty near us, River's Edge Campground near Murphy, NC.

Everything went pretty well.

All set up:



Going on a long dog rescue run to NJ tomorrow. Hope to camp at Chilhowee campground at some point next week if all goes well. Would love to meet some of the E TN/N GA/W NC contingent if you can stop by - will keep you guys informed of when we'll be there.

[djsamuel]

There is no set drain area for the condensate, depends on how the camper is leveled.  I've had it drain like shown on your picture before.  Last trip for us, it drained down the inside wall to my wife's side of the bed!  Needed to re-caulk that, so hopefully all is well now.