Wood Cabinet Doors

[whoofit]

[p]I would choose the Azdel over this. Can't help but wonder if this is a base model with actual wood being an upgrade.

If this is laminated particle board I will loose major respect for the brand. It does appear to be MDF looking at the inside of the door.[/p][p] [/p][p]Bob, thank you for the picture[/p]

[tinkeringtechie]

[quote source="/post/15537/thread" timestamp="1443356724" author="@whoofit"][p]I would choose the Azdel over this. Can't help but wonder if this is a base model with actual wood being an upgrade.

If this is laminated particle board I will loose major respect for the brand. It does appear to be MDF looking at the inside of the door.[/p][p] [/p][p]Bob, thank you for the picture[/p][/quote]The problem is that even if the upgrade was "actual wood" it would still most likely be a veneer. Which would normally be fine (you'd be surprised how many of your favorite furniture brands are using veneer these days) but for a trailer that touts durability that's hardly durable. A little leak over winter and your veneer would peel right off, the mdf would swell and crumble... 

[solds88]

[p]It looks like they are trying to emulate Zebrawood, which is a very expensive African wood. And, the hinges they are using are way cheaper than the piano style hinges, which we are accustomed to seeing in our TT's. [/p][p]
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[tinkeringtechie]

Don't forget the cabinet catches straight from the 80's. They hold just hard enough to frustrate you when opening, but not hard enough to keep your stuff in on a bumpy ride.

[gbpack]

We were at the factory as well (two weeks ago) and saw some new models that were about to be shipped to a RV show in PA. There are 3 new interior cabinet styles, two of which are the laminated variety as shown in Ammobob's picture (there is a dark zebra wood and a white zebra wood), and then there is one solid wood cabinet face that is very sturdy and looks nice. It's dark brown in color and looks like it would be a good cabinet door face (not a laminate over some sort of other board like the other two zebra wood styles). Quite a departure from their old Azdel cabinets but we thought the solid wood option looked better than the old Azdel. We didn't care for the two laminate zebra wood options. They also have some new vinyl flooring available that has a tile pattern and looks pretty nice, as well as different Azdel patterns for the walls. Then they have different valance options over the windows to choose from. Putting them altogether, they look very nice (with the solid wood cabinet faces). Lastly, the windows with built in shades are the same units they have been using for years, so no worries there, and we found that they are using the heavier coupler now which is rated for something over 7,000 pounds (instead of the smaller 5,000 coupler they had been using). We are going to be ordering a 21BHS with the Sierra interior color design (solid wood faced cabinets), and are getting the option for 15" wheels as well (which is a new option). They say it will take about 8 weeks to build.

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/15561/thread" timestamp="1443400788" author="@gbpack"]We were at the factory as well ...... and we found that they are using the heavier coupler now which is rated for something over 7,000 pounds (instead of the smaller 5,000 coupler they had been using).
[/quote][font size="3"]So they are listening. Did they install the side bolts in the coupler??[/font]

[ammobob]

Not that I saw while I was there and I did look for it on the Camplite models they had in prep out from. I did not search the lot.

[gbpack]

Charliem - I did not notice if there were any side bolts in the coupler. Is that something we can have the dealer do when the trailer arrives? Is there a specific place where they need to put the bolts?

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/15572/thread" author="@gbpack" timestamp="1443443594"]Charliem - I did not notice if there were any side bolts in the coupler. Is that something we can have the dealer do when the trailer arrives? Is there a specific place where they need to put the bolts?[/quote][font size="3"]Yes, you could have the dealer do it. Refer to the original thread here: [a href="http://livinlite.proboards.com/thread/606/bent-coupler-on-21rbs"]http://livinlite-owners.com/thread/606/bent-coupler-on-21rbs[/a]

Show this to the dealer so he knows exactly the problem and the fix. Maybe a better option is for you to show them exactly what to do and where to do it. I'm leary of just telling a dealer to add side bolts. Just any old bolt placed any old place won't cut it.[/font]

[charliem]

[quote source="/post/15571/thread" timestamp="1443442481" author="@ammobob"]Not that I saw while I was there and I did look for it on the Camplite models they had in prep out from. I did not search the lot.[/quote][font size="3"]Hmmm. Such an easy fix. But then, it would add another labor step. [/font]

[ammobob]

[p]Here is a picture I took while at the factory of a White 21BHS with the XL package I went through while at the factory (hit the picture to go to photobucket page with additional pictures). They have definitely gone to the wood cabinet doors with what looks like laminated as standard and solid wood as an upgrade.[/p][p]
[/p][p]A piece of good news is that the have upgraded the countertops to solid surface, upgraded the sinks metal instead of plastic and improved the facets.[/p][p]
[/p][p]They have added a tile look flooring also.

[a href="http://s304.photobucket.com/user/bvabob1/media/LivinLite%20Factory/Camplite/image_zpsiljcsadc.jpeg.html"]

[furpod]

A 1971 Winnebago wants it's cabinets back...

[drdave]

SO...sorry I haven't put my pictures up yet... I promise soon.   The cabinets doors are not real wood, but definitely felt solid, not junky.   I've been in some cheap trailers with junk cabinets...this is not the case with these.   The other cabinet choice with raised panels is definitely more attractive than the zebra wood.  Honestly I think both looked OK in person and I don't think it's a downgrade from the azdel/aluminum doors.  I seem to be constantly adjusting various latches and it's starting to get old.    

[whoofit]

[quote source="/post/15595/thread" timestamp="1443487437" author="@tlbones"]SO...sorry I haven't put my pictures up yet... I promise soon.   The cabinets doors are not real wood, but definitely felt solid, not junky.   I've been in some cheap trailers with junk cabinets...this is not the case with these.   The other cabinet choice with raised panels is definitely more attractive than the zebra wood.  Honestly I think both looked OK in person and I don't think it's a downgrade from the azdel/aluminum doors.  I seem to be constantly adjusting various latches and it's starting to get old.    [/quote][p]It looks like you just upgraded the TT and TV? Didn't you have a Frontier and 16DB?[/p][p]
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[furpod]

I certainly hope they look better in person. I am glad they appear to only be changing the blinds, and not the windows themselves. I am a little confused on the description of the Bearcat changes, it sounds as, "if you want an old style CL interior" you may be able to get it by buying a toy hauler...?

I guess it's going to come down to what we can find/see come next season.