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Anybody have an HOA that dont allow RV-Camp-Tent campers in view on your property?  I'm lucky no HOA but my Dad before he passed away he had to
find an RV storage the city came out with an ordinance. He had lived in Jax Beach for 40 years but they wouldnt grandfather anyone in.  A camper buddy of
mine has to store his because of the HOA and covenants.

In looking for my down sized home I've instructed the realtor to bypass property with HOA's.

My husband has firmly promised to retire next month. Yay! (He has promised in the past but then his employer offered him $$$ to stay longer. The RV that we just got in the fall is a major factor in his decision this time.)

I could not answer your survey because we are retiring to an apartment in Kentucky. RVs are not permitted on the property. So, we will be looking for someplace to store it.

I know RVers who store their campers on farms. Farmers will charge a whole lot less than commercial storage lots. We are considering this.

We have covenants in our deeds, but no HOA. Our covenants allow storage of a camper, but it cannot be occupied while stored on the property.

[quote source="/post/7932/thread" timestamp="1426545111" author="@shovelhead"][/quote][p]I think you are making a big mistake.[/p][p]
[/p][p]It sounds like you want to have absolute freedom to do anything you want to with your new home. Like:[/p][p]
[/p][p]Leave old pickup trucks on the front lawn jacked up on blocks[/p][p]Raise chickens[/p][p]Have an old toilet in your front yard as a decoration[/p][p]Let your lawn grow up 3' high.[/p][p]
[/p][p]No?  So how about if your next door neighbor does these things. With no zoning or deed covenants you won't have much of a leg to stand on to try to get it stopped. You might as well live on tobacco road. I don't want to live next to you or your neighbor in that situation.[/p][p]
[/p][p]With enough land around your home you can live with no restrictions. But in a semi-urban environment, you can't.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Zoning provides mostly sensible regulations to prohibit those things in a neighborhood. Those regulations are enforced by the city or zoning authority. Where there is no zoning, deed covenants accomplish the same thing. These are enforced by the dreaded Home Owners Association if there is one.[/p][p]
[/p][p]So it isn't the HOA who restricts what you can do with your property, it is the deed restrictions that you bought into when you purchased your property.[/p][p]
[/p][p]To the poster with deed covenants but no HOA, you will have to sue yourself to enforce those restrictions. Good luck.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Prohibiting RV storage in the front or visible drive way is entirely sensible in the areas I want to live. I don't want to do it and I don't want my neighbor to. I store my RV offsite for $40/month.[/p][p]
[/p][p]David
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Having been in the military for the last 26 years I have learned my lesson over and over again when it comes to HOAs or in our case military housing Nazi-like inspectors with a vendetta for those with the slightest bit of grass growing in the cracks of the sidewalk or with the ruler and clipboard to measure and write-up people for the length of their grass (3.5" vs 3")... You think I'm kidding?  I HATE HOAs and I do mean HATE! I have been more or less forced to live in them off and on due to the need to be close to the base but once I retire I will never be subjugated again!  I understand those who are concerned that the guy next-door might change his oil or park his car in the lawn but I want to actually have some say over what I can do on my land and with my house.  If I park my RV in my driveway, I want it to be my decision, not yours!  When I choose the color or style of house I build I want it to be my decision, not yours!  What I want to bind me are the laws of the land not the whims of the retired busybody down the street with nothing better to do than to find something wrong with me!
Sorry, I just fell off the soapbox...

David I have never lived in a sub divison that has an HOA.  I can only go on what I've seen with friends.  Where I currently have lived for the past 25 years has no HOA restriction.  The county takes care of junks up on blocks, if the grass gets 3' tall the sanitation department will be visiting.  No coon dogs allowed under the front porch.  All stills must be out of sight.   If I or my neighbor wants to paint their house red white & blue we dot need an HOA's permission. I really dont care if he does not my business.    If I have a friend over and he parks on my street no need for an HOA rent-a-cop to give a citation.   Finally if I want to park my RV in my yard, my driveway  it's my business.  Oh my neighbor has a 4 post bath tub as a flower bed in his front yard.... really pretty in full bloom.   We're allowed to fly whatever colors as well... No HOA to say you cant fly  your flags....   Amurica...

David,

Checked the "Declaration of covenants, Conditions and restrictions" for each property in our development.

In the compliance section it states (condensed version) that any property owner has the right to undertake necessary action to cure such Owners' default. It also states that all expenses incurred enforcing shall be charged to the defaulting owner. In the end it's a Judges decision.

When we prepare to purchase a property, first thing we review is if the property has a HOA and Covenants & Restrictions to help make the purchase decision.

We prefer not having a HOA and being able to park our camper at home.

 For those that have problems with RV parking, the Good Sam Club has information to help. http://www.goodsamclub.com/parkingrights/

Me in my city there was a law that you couldn't park you RV in your driveway if it was in front of your house, you couldn't event park a truck that was 3/4 ton and over in your own driveway, so you couldn't park a Ford F250 or RAM 2500 for example in your driveway. For the truck thing they changed it now the only one you can't park are really big, like a towing truck or big delivery truck. For travel trailer now they allow you to park one from May 1st to October 31 (not 100% sure of the dates) but during winter you are now allowed to have a RV parked in your driveway if it's in front of your house.  There is no problem parking in your backyard. I am happy they now allow it during the summer season because it wasn't before and I have no access to my backyard so I would have had to find a parking somewhere else

[p]We only deal with town wide bylaws and zoning restrictions. There are areas in town where HOAs do exist. It's good there are places we could go if looking for a certain type of lifestyle and environment. Over 55. No pets. One parking spot and such.

I watched town meetings for a while. Some of the requests were pretty far fetched. Things like wanting people muscled for a cracked window on a shed. Dogs barking in the midday sun. Wild turkey depredation hunts. You name it really.

I don't make it practice to tell my neighbor what to do with his land. He doesn't tell me what either. If he did I'd consider his request thoughtfully and maybe build a fence if it would help. Funny thing about many HOAs though....they disallow fences...lol[/p][p]
[/p][p]What I dislike about HOA type organizations is as fresh blood moves in priorities can change. A simple vote can change your lifestyle dramatically. If you are the only one who owns an RV, for instance, are counting on storing that in your backyard to make ends meet and enough people are jealous of your opulent lifestyle you are at risk. Even if it was allowed before it is no longer so. You have been exiled from your own home so to speak.[/p][p]
[/p][p]If they can ban the American Flag they can pretty much do as they please, no?[/p]

I have made the personal choice to never live with an HOA. I dont like the idea that a town can change zoning or ordinances relatively easily right out from under people so I certainly dont want an HOA adding to that headache. I am however a realist and know that it is nearly impossible to find a place with zero restrictions. So I currently live in a small sub-division, if you can even call it that, that has a covenants. Even that bit me in the rear end prior to the builder losing full control, but thats a story for another day. Our homeowners had a quick little meeting when we took control of the neighborhood and decided that the page and a half worth of mostly common sense restrictions would be all we needed. My statement against an HOA was simple. We are all adults, if there is an issue chances are all it will take is a simple knock on the door. If for some odd reason the issue persists then the offender might have to deal with up to a dozen lawsuits, and nobody wants that. Maybe people are just getting so scared to actually talk with their neighbors these days, but it seems like too many people are trying to hide behind an HOA or someone/something else. Why do we need others to be the "bad guy" when it seems like 99% of any issue that generally come up can be dealt with, with a little face to face conversation.

Sorry I started to ramble but this is one area where I have some strong feelings and if I actually tried to sit down and write them out it could go on for pages...

In short, I try to be a man of my principles and I know for a fact that I would rather have a live and let live type outlook. So I will do my best to treat others around me with the respect I expect in return. What they do on their own property is up to them (assuming it does not endanger myself or my family). I expect them to stay out of my choices in return.

I just moved into a subdivision two months ago.  There is a HOA with deed restrictions.  I did research beforehand, though, and knew what I was getting into.  It doesn't make much sense to me to buy a house that comes with various restrictions and then complain about them after the fact.  The only place that I can keep an RV on my property is in the garage.  I have a small pop up so it easily fits into one half of the two-car garage.  My wife puts her car in the other half and my car stays in the driveway.  This was my choice since I am too cheap to pay a monthly fee to store the pop up anywhere.  

[font size="3"]So I'm also a Ham Radio Operator, with an RV, so when looking for a new abode the first question goes like this:

Me: [span]    [/span]"Do you have a home owners association or restrictive covenants?"
Them: 'Yes we do, very proud of them"
Me: [span]    [/span]"I've got to go. Don't call me, I'll call you."
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[p]It's a good discussion really.

I have a hard time moving past the notion that the very first thing one learns about when considering a home purchase is what protections they have from their neighbors in the neighborhood they are buying into.

It boggles the mind so it does. Not in a pro or con kind of way but more like a do I really want to live in a place where I feel the need to protect myself from trivial things such as house color, age, income and storing an RV. Even an RV that is worth more than the home itself.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Charlie, for a while those flag pole antennas were quite the rage. Now they just ban the flags too....I can see the day where you pull in to visit a friend with your RV, flagpole antenna and a flag unfurled....heh The friend in turn disavowing any knowledge of you in order to save his bacon. Wow! A short story in the making! Enter the mob from Frankenstein.[/p]

[quote source="/post/7991/thread" timestamp="1426615111" author="@whoofit"][p]
It boggles the mind so it does. [/p][/quote][p]St. Patrick's Day was yesterday. Enough with the bog paddy lingo.[/p][p]
[/p][p]My thoughts on the topic:[/p][p]
[/p][p]1) I totally get the idea behind some method of preventing your neighbor from making his place look like the next stop for American Pickers. There's plenty of places that could just use a good fire.[/p][p]
[/p][p]2) I totally get the "Don't tread on me" mentality. The idea that a bunch of self-anointed fashion police can get all drunk on power and start pushing people around over nonsense resonates with my militant libertarian instincts.[/p][p]
[/p][p]I think it comes down to choice and transparency. Caveat emptor.[/p][p]
[/p][p]You want to live with certain assurances about your fellow man, you have to place yourself under those same restrictions. Woe be unto him that fails to participate and is then at the mercy of a capricious despot with the power of the HOA backing it up. Go ahead, sign those C&R's. [/p][p]
[/p][p]Just don't complain to me.[/p][p]
[/p][p]You want to live where nobody can tell you what to do, or come on "yer propity" to nose around, you'll be living rural, and accepting all that goes with it. Neighbor shooting gophers in his pasture at 5:15am. Dust from plowing. Dust from hay cutting. Dust from hay baling. Coyotes. And when the dogs bark at 11pm, it's time to Repel Boarders, because ain't nobody coming around then uninvited as should be there and doesn't have bad intentions. [/p][p]
[/p][p]Just don't complain to me.[/p][p]
[/p][p]For my part, there isn't a spot within 100 yards of my front door where I can see a neighbor's house, much less listen to their teenage daughter's telephone conversations through the open window (trust me, it's not as interesting as it sounds). We fled the cul-de-sac suburbs and all that goes with it, and the back of my hand to them as stayed behind.[/p][p]
[/p][p]So I can park my trailer anywhere I want within 4 acres. I can pee on my own front lawn on the way to getting the paper. And if I was willing to tolerate strangers coming on my land I might be tempted to rent some RV storage space for a few shekels, but I just don't like people well enough to deal with them.[/p][p]
[/p][p]But I won't belittle (well, not often or to their face) those who choose to live in the 'burbs and think it's The Promised Land.[/p][p]
[/p][p]Just don't complain to me.[/p][p]
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[quote source="/post/8101/thread" timestamp="1426731569" author="@pinstriper"][quote source="/post/7991/thread" author="@whoofit" timestamp="1426615111"][p]
It boggles the mind so it does. [/p][/quote][p]St. Patrick's Day was yesterday. Enough with the bog paddy lingo.[/p][p]
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[/p][/quote]Yep, I did post this on St Paddy's Day. You can't work for an Irish company for 10 years travelling frequently there and not pick up some of that. But that is me and there you have it. Sorry, that slipped.