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Camplite => Camplite General Q & A => Topic started by: jepeck on November 02, 2015, 10:11:33 PM

Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: jepeck on November 02, 2015, 10:11:33 PM
Has anyone else experienced bubbling of the cherry-wood-grain wallpaper stuff on the inside of Campsite trailers?  If so, has anyone successfully replaced or repaired this stuff?

John Peck
2015 14db
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: tinkeringtechie on November 03, 2015, 11:02:07 AM
Quote from: @jepeck" source="/post/16423/thread" timestamp="1446516693Has anyone else experienced bubbling of the cherry-wood-grain wallpaper stuff on the inside of Campsite trailers?  If so, has anyone successfully replaced or repaired this stuff?

John Peck
2015 14db
Can you post a picture? Is it the Azdel? Or the tape that they use to join the seams? Does it feel hard, or like a film? I'm wondering if the graphic layer of the Azdel has delaminated...
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: christianm on November 03, 2015, 11:15:09 AM
Yes! Pictures would be great! 
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: ammobob on November 03, 2015, 11:57:35 AM
And now I know why we ordered our 21BHS with full aluminum interior.  ;) 

We have 3 pieces of Adzel in our camper and they are under the beds.
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: aggie79 on November 03, 2015, 06:41:04 PM
[quote timestamp="1446566255" author="@ammobob" source="/post/16439/thread"]And now I know why we ordered our 21BHS with full aluminum interior.  ;) 

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I'm glad that is still an option - not.   >:D
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: djsamuel on November 04, 2015, 11:07:40 AM
The cherry azdel in my 2013 21BHS is fine so far.
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: jepeck on November 04, 2015, 09:46:10 PM
[quote source="/post/16436/thread" timestamp="1446563709" author="@christianm"]Yes! Pictures would be great! [/quote]
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: jepeck on November 04, 2015, 09:50:59 PM
[quote source="/post/16436/thread" timestamp="1446563709" author="@christianm"]Yes! Pictures would be great! [/quote]
[img src="https://ss.prbrds.com/s/10398/5560398/t/qqN9NiuqvwcZKco2Oeoc.jpg"]
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[img src="https://ss.prbrds.com/s/10398/5560398/t/y55NZyImIJHxwbNfLET_.jpg"]
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: jepeck on November 04, 2015, 09:55:44 PM
[quote source="/post/16465/thread" timestamp="1446688259" author="@jepeck"][quote source="/post/16436/thread" timestamp="1446563709" author="@christianm"]Yes! Pictures would be great! [/quote]
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Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: jepeck on November 04, 2015, 10:00:05 PM
Thanks for your responses to my inquiry.  The surface (wood grained) material seems to be separating from the underlying material.  This is on a 2015 14db purchased new this fall and taken on one three night trip.   The pictures above show several examples of the issue, which is present on maybe half of the woodgrain panels so far.  The other "Adzel" panels which are not wood grained seem fine.
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: whoofit on November 05, 2015, 06:30:01 AM
[quote source="/post/16467/thread" author="@jepeck" timestamp="1446688805"]Thanks for your responses to my inquiry.  The surface (wood grained) material seems to be separating from the underlying material.  This is on a 2015 14db purchased new this fall and taken on one three night trip.   The pictures above show several examples of the issue, which is present on maybe half of the woodgrain panels so far.  The other "Adzel" panels which are not wood grained seem fine.[/quote][p]This is terrible and real news. Don't think we've seen this before.[/p][p]
[/p][p]The "other Azdel panels"...they are aluminum?
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Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: drdave on November 05, 2015, 08:05:59 AM
[quote timestamp="1446719401" author="@whoofit" source="/post/16470/thread"][quote source="/post/16467/thread" author="@jepeck" timestamp="1446688805"][/quote][p]
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[/p][p]The "other Azdel panels"...they are aluminum?
[/p][/quote]I think he's refering to the cream colored wall panels.    
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: aggie79 on November 05, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
I believe the Azdel composite panels are manufactured and an outer decorative skin is applied later to the composite panel.  The "finished" panels are then delivered to LL. Even though this would be a supplier issue rather than a LivinLite issue, ultimately LL is responsible.
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: christianm on November 05, 2015, 11:56:00 AM
[quote source="/post/16466/thread" timestamp="1446688544" author="@jepeck"]
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[/quote]Yikes!!!! Thanks for taking the time to get these. 

I've private messaged you to get you some info about our warranty department so we can get this fixed. 

Thanks again! 
Title: Woodgrain wallpaper bubbling
Post by: jepeck on November 21, 2015, 02:46:45 PM
Update.

Don N at Livenlite has indicated that they could replace any affected panels if I could bring the trailer to the factory and leave it for a few weeks.  My selling dealer (Nature and Me RV in Traverse City, Mi) has also indicated that he should be able to replace the panels locally and that it probably not be necessary for me to bring the trailer to the factory, which is about 200 miles away.  As the trailer is currently in storage my dealer and I made a plan for me to bring it in in the Spring to scope out how much material would be needed to effect the repairs then take it from there.  He (my dealer) assured me that they would do whatever is required to make things right to my satisfaction.

I will do another update later.